Who do you consider the best heavy weight without a belt?

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  1. Del Boy

    Del Boy R.I.P Darren Sutherland Full Member

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    Any world title from lineal to modern ABC

    Some names in groups to get the thread going but no particular order

    Colour line: Peter Jackson, Sam Langford, Joe Janette, Sam McVea, Harry Wills

    70’s Contenders: Jimmy Young, Ron Lyle, Oscar Bonevana, Zora Foley, Ernie Shavers, Jerry Quarry

    Modern: David Tua, Andrew Golota, Ike Ibeabuchi, Donovan Ruddock
     
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  2. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Quarry. He'd have easily picked up a belt if he wasn't from such a strong era.
     
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  3. catchwtboxing

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    For his era Joe Chonyski.

    For any era unlimited weight, probably Ibeacucchi, although we didn't get to see him fight a real super heavy.
     
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  4. cross_trainer

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    Ali whenever he chose not to wear a belt.
     
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  6. elgoadie

    elgoadie Active Member Full Member

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    Cooney's got to be up there for me.
     
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  7. Omega74

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    Never really had a career defining win imo. Lost against almost every big name (even non champions) he faced.
     
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  8. Unforgiven

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    He had a chance to pick up a belt against Jimmy Ellis, a blown up middleweight.
    I don't think that should be seen as an exceptionally tough break.
     
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  9. Unforgiven

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    I think Sam Langford.
     
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  10. Quick Cash

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    I thought he almost certainly outworked an aged Patterson and was unlucky not to get the decision against Mathis. It's been a while, but I also remember having the Quarry fight as even before the strange ending.
     
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  11. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wills or Moore…
     
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  12. Flash24

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    1st man to pop in my head.
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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  14. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ellis was an excellent fighter at his peak. Beat a ton of excellent opposition. That being said I like Quarry but I can think of several I’d have over him
     
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  15. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Quick, I really like George and think he at least belongs on a list for consideration on this subject. However, in regards to the Mathis fight, I don't think there was any doubt that Mathis won that fight. I personally scored it 9-1-2 for Mathis on the NY rounds basis and the officials scores were similar. Perhaps you're thinking of another fight. I do think the Patterson fight was one of his best showings and anyone he fought from that era was ending up with sore ribs.
     
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