Is Prime GGG the least likely fighter ever to get dominated in a fight?

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  1. MoneyMay1

    MoneyMay1 Member Full Member

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    I've been thinking about how prime GGG's skillsets would allow him to be competitive vs. every single Middleweight in history. While GGG would not be favored vs. every MW (Hagler and Monzon), he would win 4-5 rounds at least in all of those fighters. I can't see a scenario where GGG where he loses 12 rounds to 0 like Canelo vs Mayweather. He is going to be competitive because his skillset poses a challenge vs. anyone.

    GGG"s skillset:
    Granite Chin which makes him impossible to knockout
    Monster Power in both hands (23 KO's in a row)
    Solid fundamentals
    All-time great Jab

    Hagler and Monzon would have to work hard to beat GGG. He would make it uncomfortable and rough.

    Are there any other fighters you see who could only possibly lose in a close fight?
     
  2. Jpreisser

    Jpreisser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't say ever but Burt Bienstock, a longtime poster here who saw Robinson, Pep, etc., in the flesh, has continuously maintained that Golovkin would have been competitive with any middleweight in history.
     
  3. MoneyMay1

    MoneyMay1 Member Full Member

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    Middleweight Robinson would struggle vs. GGG. Robinson's chin was the not the strongest and he was hittable. A bad combo vs GGG.
     
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  4. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He may not get ko'ed But I see Hagler, Jones Jr, Monzon,
    beating the hell out of the vastly overrated Triple G.
    And Robinson beating him comfortably.
     
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  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    No, I don't see him being really dominated as such by any middle.
    But sayin that, maybe a guy like Sugar Ray Robinson, over the course of the fight, out works him, has him hurt and makes him look ready to be stopped.
    It would have to happen over the course of the fight of course, and by the championship rounds, GGG would be soaking up punishment like crazy.
    Those hands of Sugar Ray's were like heat seeking missiles!
     
  6. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He 's got a good chin but I certainly wouldn't say he's impossible to knock out.
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Wouldn’t bet on it but some top middles might be able to dominate him by exploiting his limited speed.
     
  8. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    RJJ toys with him 9 times out of 10.
     
  9. META5

    META5 Active Member Full Member

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    I would imagine B-Hop at his MW best probably more likely than GGG to be competitive against everybody.

    I think guys like the best RJJ and SRR can do enough to win the majority of rounds on a pure points scoring basis to leave a wide enough margin, though not a thrashing against GGG that I'm not sure they would with the best MW B-Hop.
     
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  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Hagler, Jones, Greb, Hopkins and Monzon are more likely to never be less than competitive than GGG. Hagler, Monzon and especially Jones would clown GGG.
     
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  11. BCS8

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    I think Golovkin is one of the fighters least likely to be dominated by anybody.

    First off, physically he scores 10 / 10 on any metric. If you're talking about the biggest middleweight punchers, he is in the conversation. If you're talking about the hardest chins at middleweight, he's also in the conversation. He's built like a bull and as strong as they come. He's never exhibited stamina problems, able to fight as hard in the late rounds as in the early rounds.

    Next, we can examine him technically. he's likewise extremely solid in all aspects, be it offense or defence. He fights in the classical manner basing his game off of an ATG jab, a punch that has been noted is a weapon in its own right. He's knocked guys out with his jab. Defensively he fights in the EE style, using footwork (great footwork, as has been often noted) to create space to muffle an opponent's atatck or to keep an opponent in the midrange that he so excels at. He slips, he parries, he uses his arms and elbows against bodypunches and he keeps his chin tucked in.

    Offensively he needs little introduction, having mastery of every punch in the book, including some like the 'skull compactor' that he invented himself. He mixes up body and head attacks well and has a great sense of timing. His power is crushing. He's broken ribs and faces before.

    So what are his weaknesses?

    Not many.

    He's a bit too macho sometimes and does the "hit me some more" thing which, while psychologically effective, is somewhat stupid to do against a top fighter. His speed is not that great, and I believe that it cost him a bit against Canelo, who still has young man reflexes. That said, let's remember that the GGG we have seen is OLD GGG. Most great fighters were retired by age 32-35 and that's when Golovkin had some of his most important fights. If you look at his early footage and especially his amateur footage, Golovkin is MUCH faster. You might even say that speed was one of his assets.

    I'd argue that Golovkin being a hard fight for any MW in history is a vindication of the discipline of boxing itself.

    He is so technically solid in all aspects that he really has few if any holes to exploit.
     
  12. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never stopped in 199 fights apart from heat exhaustion against Maxim.
    Real chin issues.
     
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  14. MoneyMay1

    MoneyMay1 Member Full Member

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    "

    In 1943, an undefeated Robinson met LaMotta in the ring for the second time. In the eighth round, LaMotta got the better of Robinson.

    "Sugar Ray was coming up out of a crouch," Haygood says. "Jake LaMotta saw an opening — Sugar Ray's chin — and he threw every inch, every muscle, every pound of extra weight and power into Sugar Ray Robinson, and knocked him clean out of the ring."

    Robinson had never been knocked down before, "let alone knocked out of the ring," says Haygood. The moment, shockingly captured on film, shook Robinson up."

    https://www.wbur.org/npr/121986545/story.php
     
  15. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Golovkin is a good choice but of the fighters I've seen since 1965 I believe Roy Jones Jr. is the least likely to be dominated. I'm talking about prime RJJ, of course. In his prime he rarely lost rounds against top level opposition. While unlikely, someone could possibly beat him but it is impossible for me to see anyone dominating him.