Fury vs Whyte is probably cancelled.

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  1. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where does Canelo fit into this exactly Moonlight?

    Joking aside I think it's a combination of both sides.

    I stated in an earlier thread that I felt Tyson would price himself out of the Whyte fight because he wants the Joshua fight and is probably only looking to fight a couple of times before retiring.

    Still not convinced he wants Usyk I hope however that I'm wrong and we get the fight we deserve to see who the top dog is.

    That being said if Joshua gets a result over Usyk which is possble unless Usyk knock him out I could see Fury having two fights with Joshua as they would do big money in the UK and around the world.

    Which leaves us with Whyte and Hearn again probably over valuing there worth and putting the situation in a stalemate. I think even if Whyte conceeded terms to Fury I'm not 100% convinced he gets in the ring as I just don't think he's motivated for Whyte.

    So it's both sides for me in this.
     
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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nothing in the WBC's rules about Interim champions getting a 45% split as you can see below. But there is a caveat that the WBC has the discretion to give a mandatory a larger split should the challenger's market value necessitate a larger split.

    Question is, is Whyte a big enough draw himself to warrant him getting more than 30%? His most successful PPV was vs Parker with 474K buys at £19.95 for a total revenue of £9.46 million.

    Let's compare that to Fury least successful recent PPV, Fury/Wilder 1. That sold 450K buys in the UK alone at £19.95 for a revenue of £8.97 million. If you just look at the UK numbers then yes Whyte deserves a higher split. But the thing is Fury is also a draw in the US now, Fury/Wilder 1 also did 325K buys at $74.99 for a revenue of $24.37 million or £19.18 million based on the current exchange rate at the time.

    Based on these numbers Whyte should be getting 25% roughly so a 30% split for him is actually above his market value. Yes you have to factor in gates, other overseas revenue to I think it's pretty clear Whyte doesn't deserve 45%. It seems he's going to deprive himself of another title shot over money just like he did when Joshua offered him a shot.

    2.17 Division of Proceeds in a Purse Offer. The net purse offer (after deduction of all sanction fees payable to the WBC hereunder) shall be divided as follows:

    (a) 70% for the champion and 30% for the challenger in title bouts; and

    (b) 50% to each contender in the case of vacant titles or elimination bouts;

    provided, however, that the WBC Board of Governors, may by a majority vote, authorize a modification of the division of purse offer proceeds between boxers in a purse offer in unusual or special cases, such as consideration of outstanding marketing value of one of the boxers, as the WBC shall determine in its sole discretion. The modification of the split shall be limited to 60-40% and 55-45%, except in the most exceptional circumstances, in which the split may be modified to 50-50%.
     
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  4. Koli55

    Koli55 Active Member Full Member

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    There's literally 0% probability that Fury will fight in March. Not gonna happen. If we're lucky we'll get his much anticipated grudge match against Agit Kabayel in May, if he doesn't retire before that.
     
  5. MrBarry465

    MrBarry465 Active Member Full Member

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    The most hilarious thing about this video is how triggered the anti vaxxers are in the comments, just because Frank is pro vaccine. Bonkers.
     
  6. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder fight his first and only defense he tried to duck that fight.
     
  7. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Furys challengers having to go to arbitration, it is sort of becoming routine.

    Fury the supposed fighting man, yeah right.
     
  8. Robney

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  9. Unforgiven

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    Whyte turned down 6 or 7 million to fight AJ.
    Not surprised he wants 45% of a Fury fight, if he wants the fight at all.
     
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  10. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    It's funny because Whyte isn't even above British level.
    15 years ago he'd be Matt Skelton.
    25 years ago he'd be Scott Welch.
    35 years ago he'd be Hughroy Currie.
    That's his level.
     
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  11. MrBarry465

    MrBarry465 Active Member Full Member

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    You are acting as if he has held his belt for 5 years. He only won it in Feb last year and we then went into a pandemic.

    They wanted the AJ fight and then Wilder came back in and Fury defended.
     
  12. MrBarry465

    MrBarry465 Active Member Full Member

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    Lot of Whyte dick riders and Fury haters in this thread.

    Whytes lucky to even be there considering he got knokced out by a 40 year old last year and ****ing pulled out of a fight with Wallin a few weeks ago...
     
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  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Maybe, just maybe if you stop being as bias as you are, will see where it clearly states its 55-45 in case of Interim.
    Let me paste it for you, as i already did in the previous thread, but you and that Fury *** licker MrBarry that have a hard time reading stuffs that he doesn't like, you will finally stop spreading false information and see Fury as he clearly is - a complete garbage.

    Here is it for you:

    Division of Proceeds in a Purse Offer. The net purse offer (after deduction of the WBC certification fees) shall be divided as follows:
    a) 70% for the champion and 30% for the challenger.
    b) 50% to each contender in the case of vacant titles or elimination bouts.
    c) 55% to the champion and 45% to the interim champion, in the event of such a bout.
    d) Notwithstanding the terms of subparagraphs a), b) and c) above, the Board of Governors may, in its discretion and by a majority vote, modify the division of purse offer proceeds between boxers in a purse offer in unusual or special cases, like the consideration of the outstanding marketing value of one of the boxers. The modification of the split will be limited to three categories: 70-30%; 60-40%; and 55-45% for the Champion and challenger, respectively, except in the most exceptional circumstances, in which the split may be modified to 50-50%


    Whyte is the interim champion. So the split, except if WBC decide something else, and even then they can still go purse bid, which is something Fury team obviously don't want.

    I guess you all can read. The split currently is 55-45. Even if WBC decide that this is a special case, Whyte split won't be below 35. Hearn and Whyte knows they will take 35-40%.
    Fury team most probably also know this.

    Fury is a complete garbage, he is just talking big, and spreading names of Joyce, Ruiz and Parker, and in the end will fight another nobody, if he actually fight .....

    He clearly doesn't want to fight Whyte for whatever reason.
     
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  14. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Brilliant post
     
  15. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Arum and Warren are never going to allow Fury to fight on DAZN, so that's why it's actually very likely that Fury will vacate.

    They know it'll go to purse bids and they know Hearn can easily outbid them. It's obvious where this is headed.
     
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