Prime for Prime, tyson vs. .....

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  1. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    he does well in h2h in his time and before only not future and mike would win 1st round why would it last longer
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You’re one of the worst posters on this forum.

    You’re everything that you accuse others of being.

    You are completely biased.

    There’s no such thing as an outdated style, as every fighter has a stylistic nemesis.

    Styles make fights.

    That will never ever change.

    Personally, I’d favour Mike here based on how they’d have matched up stylistically.

    Whereas you would simply favour ANY modern era fighter over ANY pre 70’s guy, simply because you have no knowledge of the earlier eras and you just automatically assume that everything more modern is better.

    Joe Louis is credited as being one of the greatest and most skilful HW’s of all time by respected fighters, former fighters, managers, promoters, trainers and historians etc.

    Yet you don’t rate him because his footage is in black and white.

    Your brain can’t comprehend that Louis and the other greats of the past would have mixed success today, based on how they’d have matched up stylistically.

    If you’re trolling, then I can promise you it’s not in any way amusing.

    If your opinions are serious, then please go and educate yourself.

    The majority of your posts are awful.
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is the kind of drivel that’s intolerable.

    I’m one of Mike’s biggest fans. But he didn’t knock out all of his opponents in the first round without being hit.

    Stop being an idiot.
     
  4. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He trolled yet another thread that's been closed for weeks. He seems to thrive on being seen as miseducated, hilariously biased, and hateful. Amazed he hasn't been banned forever.
     
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  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Is he really trolling, or is he just an idiot?

    Also, I must be missing something regarding trolling.

    What do they get out of it?

    Why would you want people thinking you’re an idiot if you’re not?

    Surely you’d get far more pleasure out of having great debates with fellow posters who were equally as passionate and knowledgeable.
     
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  6. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's quite possibly another member here who uses it as an alter ego. Just trying to be cool and contrarian...and dumb as a bag of rocks. There are a lot of ridiculous, bored people out there who really have nothing else. Like moneytheclown/whoever else he is.
     
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  7. Turnip mk3

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    Louis hit hard and was fast . I doubt he would be bothered with Tysons BS .should be interesting
     
  8. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    your crazy mike destroyed people who was real slow like that who had bad defense and who wasnt tough and he did do it mutiple times stop trolling

    why dont you watch joe he had no way to stop mike from hitting him you crazy people need to stop this that was in the 40s you idiot they fought bad and was smaller its obvious anybody from that era would be destroyed by any 70s-90s boxer

    calling me the idiot yet I never said joe or anybody would do good from that time vs future you said it that makes you the idiot crazy troll

    it's called being completely realistic not ACTING blind like you people who act like you cant see boxing changed in years crazy troll

    oh I'll say how basketball is the same as it was in 70s even though tv shows it's way more advanced different rules and skills
    goes for any other sport to

    get you a time machine and come to the new year
     
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  9. boxingjunky

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    I personally don't think Louis could handle the combinations. I think Tyson handles them alot longer than Louis does. Tyson was physically stronger than Louis and had much faster and educated feet, this would work to Tysons advantage
     
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  10. moneytheman12

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    facts but you used the wrong word you said you think its fact he wouldnt be able to when he couldnt from others who dropped him
     
  11. Loudon

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    None of your posts are in any way realistic.

    I’ve already said that I’d have favoured Mike due to styles. But saying that Joe couldn’t have landed a punch and that he wouldn’t have survived a round is absolute nonsense.

    If you can’t see how stupid those statements are, then you’re an absolute idiot.

    Mike didn’t and couldn’t destroy all of his opponents in a single round.

    Anybody from the 40’s would be destroyed by any 70’s-90’s boxer?

    Sure thing, Einstein.

    Fights are determined by styles.

    There’s been no new techniques or significant rule changes in decades.

    It’s 2 guys in a physical game of chess.

    The only difference is the gloves and the added protection from the referees.

    Nothing else has changed.

    You’ve already shot yourself in the foot by talking about SRR in the GGG thread.

    SRR fought in the same era as Louis. They were friends. Yet you’ve said nothing about him not being able to survive due to the era that he fought in.

    So you’re either trolling or you’re an idiot.

    Which is it?
     
  12. moneytheman12

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    I wont read all the bull you said cause you started with me saying bull

    you last said why didnt I say anything on srr well cause he was ahead of his time which is why ali copied him and added to

    is that not odd to you if joe moved so good why didnt ali copy him its cause like I always said ali seen how basic and stiff he was why copy a person like that makes no sense

    he copied who he seen was the best he wanted to move like he could have copied jers and did good do sense jers was the best angled and constant mover ever in the black and white era before ali

    so where am I not realistic at you crazy troll everything I say would happen not happen in my mind of a fighter who im making better then they ever showed in ring it's called make believe

    im the one who asks you crazy trolls all the time to show joe moving like anybody in 80s-90s advanced movement you wont and you know they haven't sense you said you seen my stuff

    why wont they prove me wrong if im lying it's easy to type a vid in YouTube it's called he never did they cant show something that never happened

    they cant show him moving using lateral movement like fury bowe razor holy mike frazier Jersey smith rah and any other fighter I left out and other mutiple advances cause he didnt have it nobody in his time had all the advances the fighters I named had and you know they didnt just like the other crazy trolls know it

    your stuck in time like I said and like I told you come to this time its not the 40s no more
     
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  13. moneytheman12

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  14. doopapoopy

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    Let me guess 99 percent of clueless people making comments here will say Joe Louis. Joe Louis couldn't keep Billy Conn off him. Billy Conn's power was able to hurt Conn was a natural 160-170 pound guy who wasn't much of a punch fighting guys his own size. But yeah the 195 pound glass chin slow footed Joe Louis would beat the 220 pound Mike Tyson.

    I say Mike Tyson would knock out Louis just like Tyson knocked out Michael Spinks or Marvis Frazier
     
  15. doopapoopy

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    I actually seen one of these clueless people say 170 pound Gene Tunney would beat George Foreman. Just ignore these people. 99 percent of these people who make post in the Classic part of this forum have no clue to what they are talking about. It is like they can't grasp boxing has evolved from the 1930/1940. It is like they can't grasp there are weight classes for a reason.

    Each person prime Tyson lost to was better than anybody Joe Louis ever fought. Even a guy like Buster Douglas would go undefeated fighting the same slow, plodding guys from Joe Louis era.
     
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