Prime Roy Jones Jr. vs. Artur Beterbiev.

We're comparing Beterbiev to Vinny Pazienza

Not just one of the most physically strong and powerful LHWs of all time but one who is freakishly physically strong and freakishly powerful vs a former lightweight

Firstly, Beterbiev doesn't even need to land cleanly to do serious damage let alone against someone who is packing as much glass as Roy. A grazing shot from him would send Roy to the shadow realm

And he would be by far the hardest puncher Roy had ever fought below CW at the very least because prime Roy avoided savage punchers like the plague. Hence why when you take a gander at his CV one can't help but notice there's a complete dearth of them which for some inexplicable reason as with many other things he gets a free pass for

If Irishman John Reid can KO Roy in the ams, Lou Del Valle can drop him like a sack of potatoes, and Glen Johnson can spark him out cold with an innocuous love tap then Artur can do worse. Much much worse.

Don't believe me

Take a look at this

I know toddlers who would laugh that shot off

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And I don't want to hear any of these wretched and ever so convenient excuses about Roy being shot at 35 years of age because I can assure you if Artur lost his next fight at 37 years of age or loses anytime before his 50th birthday these exact same excuse makers will be quick to label him a hype job and a bum even though he'd be at least two years older than Roy was when he was conveniently deemed ''shot'' and he had 166 more amateur fights than Roy, fighting and sparring with a very aggressive style, and has taken way more punishment than him.

Yes I know Roy had about 32 more pro bout than Artur has had when he mysteriously became shot overnight but that's more than balanced out by Artur's much more extensive amateur career and Roy rarely ever got hit and wasn't involved in any wars.

I guarantee you 100% they'll be on here saying this if and when Beterbiev loses and his of course his age and the wear and tear of an extremely extensive amateur career and injuries will have nothing to do with it. Strange how certain types of fighter who they always pick to lose in these hypothetical match ups are completely immune to the ageing process, eh?

Secondly, Roy would have to get past VADA first and I don't see that happening

In fact, Roy would be have to undergo stringent testing for PEDs and he wouldn't get to spend the first 10-11 years of his career not being tested for roids at all


And I can assure you Artur sure as hell wouldn't be given a free pass like Roy was if he popped dirty. He'd be considered an evil demon who'd escaped through the gates of hell and all of his accomplishments would be dismissed and attributed to his PEDs, whereas, conversely, steroids magically transform into placebos upon entering the bloodstream of Roy

I got another one for you Roy fans

If he had to run a gauntlet of savage punchers like Beterbiev, Adonis and Kovalev in this era he would 100% get sparked out cold by at least one of them. I know that kills you guys inside to admit that but trust me that's exactly what would happen

 

Thanks. I make people play by their own set of rules

I wouldn't need to if they could at least attempt to be fair

But they never do so here I am

 

Thanks.

I've been a fan of his since at least the 2008 Olympics and if we could transplant that 23 y/o version of him into the LHW division he turned pro in five years later aged 28 he would've been just as effective and beastly if not more so as he has been, only difference is there would be a lot less wear and tear on his body and miles on the clock and he wouldn't have been restricted to 17 fights in 8.5 years and it gets even worse when you factor in 9 of them were in the first 2 years of his career, 10 in the first 3 albeit some of these spells of inactivity were due to contractual disputes.

He's definitely not what he once was and he's been incredibly unlucky with injury and out of the ring problems and his career has been terribly frustrating because he'd already left many of his best and prime years in the amateurs as it is and he's wasted a lot more of them by only having fought 8 times in the last 6.5 years. And he's going to be out for a long time again now due to that terrible cut on his forehead.

Remember how Tavoris Cloud was ''shot to bits'' at the age of 32 after just 28 pro fights and about 50 amateur ones if I remember correctly when a 5-0 Beterbiev demolished him in scary fashion in like four minutes, dropping him for the first time in his career and allegedly breaking his jaw? But no way Beterbiev after 300 amateur bouts and over 25 years of boxing and training like a demon which is something he's known for could possibly be past his prime at 37 (which he turns next month) or have a ton of wear and tear on his body.

Incidentally, the aforementioned Glen Johnson said Cloud is the hardest puncher he ever fought and Campillo said the same and only changed his mind after facing Beterbiev.

That was a Beterbiev who was still in his physical prime

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FTR, my first post was not an attack on @Loudon. Only the first part about Pazienza was aimed at him and that was meant to be humorous. A little bit of good-natured sarcasm