PARKER vs USYK - Who Troubles Who Now??

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  1. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What matters is best vs best. Going by stages of careers is a bit of a sad cherry pick to bolster your argument. But since you wanna play it that way...

    What fight did Joyce win his world title? Oh wait. He hasn't, and never will.
     
  2. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Hasn't had the opportunity so a bit of a sad way to cherry pick to bolster your argument as you say

    Again Charles Martin won a world title so not too impressed these days when a HW does win one depending on the opponent

    Great reign Parker had eh..........

    Arguably a loss against H Fury, went the distance with his sparing partner and then limped out the title picture by losing easily to AJ
     
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  3. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @paulmillsfitness Full Member

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    Fight never happens. Usyk sails off into a healthy retirement after the undisputed fight with a HOF place guaranteed win or lose. If it’s on a win, it’s with an ATG place cemented in two weight divisions.
     
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  4. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Way to avoid the point. Joyce is near the end of his career and has achieved bugger all, and is already not fighting early 2022 due to an injury. Parker has actually achieved something in his career and has plenty of time to do more. Spin it how you want Parker is the better fighter of the two.
     
  5. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Bollocks is he

    You keep fan boying your fellow country man lol
     
  6. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm hardly fanboying. I accept that there are fighters Parker can't beat. Slow plodding stiff Joyce isn't one of them.
     
  7. Veerbone

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    Parker is a top 5-8 HW. Usyk is a top 2 HW, and there's a big gap between those two tiers.

    I can't see Parker hurting Usyk because I don't see Parker touching Usyk much. If you look at the top 10, Parker would have trouble with several of them, where Usyk most likely would not. I think Fury would be a tossup if he is motivated and comes in some kind of shape.

    Could you ever imagine Wilder landing a solid right against Usyk, who's head is never still? He's already beaten Joshua. Joyce could never catch him.

    Parker's next fight may make or break his chances of every seeing Usyk in the ring. He needs a win over a Dylian White, Wilder, Aj or maybe even Joyce to show he's not a 2nd tier HW.
     
  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Sure
     
  9. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Imagine a semi trailer with the gas tank of a mini. That is Parker. I've followed him for years now hoping he could step up but he gasses and can't put guys away who go into their shell. He is fast and has decent hands, and a granite chin.
     
  10. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Either Parker will confirm that he's turned a corner - or he won't

    He is only 50% into his improvement, according to his new trainer - and I believe it.

    I think there will be plenty of time for a Parker - Usyk matchup before either retire.
     
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  11. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LMFAO! Parker never dropped Chisora in his first fight, but got dropped himself. Meanwhile, Chisora never came close to dropping or even hurting Usyk even once in their only fight.

    If you wanna be objective and fair, compared their performances in their first fights against Chisora. What Parker did in the second fight is totally irrelevant. How do you know Usyk isn't going to be able to literally KO Chisora if he fights Chisora again in a rematch? Unless Usyk faces Chisora again and does worse than Parker did, bringing up what Parker did in a REMATCH against Chisora (when Usyk never even had a rematch against Chisora) is totally irrelevant.
     
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  12. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well the thread is about parker's improvement after the 2nd fight, so fully relevant.
     
  13. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, it still isn't because what Parker did against Chisora in a rematch has no bearing on how he'd perform against Usyk. You understand this, right? You understand just how different Usyk and Chisora are, and saying Parker dropped Chisora (in a rematch) whilst Usyk could not his first fight is akin to comparing apples to bicycle tyres, right?
     
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  14. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    I really hope that fight gets made.
     
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  15. It's Ovah

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    Parker is like a Ferrari driven by an oblivious old granny who's content to putter along on the freeway causing massive honking traffic jams in her wake.
     
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