2021 Year End P4P List

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by StussyBrownnn, Dec 29, 2021.


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  1. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Anytime I see a post about champions and activity I immediately go to Gary Russell Jr. who has not had more than one fight in a year since 2014. How in the world the WBC let's him remain as their featherweight strap holder is beyond me.

    I am hopeful that when COVID truly ends more cards and more fight frequency at the top levels will prevail.
     
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  2. Kell Macabe

    Kell Macabe I don’t know s*** about boxing Full Member

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    1.Usyk
    2.Inoue
    3.Canelo
    4.Crawford
    5.Lomachenko
    6.Taylor
    7.Spence
    8.Estrada
    9.Fury
    10.Bertibeiv


    Honorable mentions

    Ioka, Kambosos, GGG, Chocalito
     
    Kell Macabe, Dec 30, 2021
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  3. Kell Macabe

    Kell Macabe I don’t know s*** about boxing Full Member

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  4. ShadesOfAli

    ShadesOfAli Active Member Full Member

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    Dude just because Teo won a very close fight against Loma, and stopped Commey instead of dominating him over 12, doesn’t mean he’s a better pound for pound fighter than him.

    Loma is a considerably smaller man than Teo and has had to move up in weight divisions challenging guys heavier than him to pursue greatness much like Pacquiao did.

    Fighters who excessively try to stack the deck in their favour with their demands and by being weight bullies should be looked upon less favourably in pound for pound discussions when compared to the truly elite warriors who just want to get on with it in the name of legacy.
     
    ShadesOfAli, Dec 30, 2021
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  5. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Look at the scorecards it was not a close fight at all. If you fight in a certain division and are champion you have no excuse to say some other guy who makes the weight is naturally bigger than you. That pardon my French is a BS excuse.
     
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  6. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Hey Mr Gary Russell Jr is a good fighter.
     
    African Cobra, Dec 31, 2021
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  7. Koli55

    Koli55 Active Member Full Member

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    1. Canelo
    2. Usyk
    3. Crawford
    4. Inoue

    No reason to list more than top4.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk
    Clenelo
    Inoue
    Crawford
    Loma
    Taylor
    Estrada

    Don't know enough about Ioka

    I wouldn't have Fury there like The Ring does

    Spence would probably warrant a place but I'm not sure if whether to put him at #9 or #10

    I'd have to give 8-10 a little thought

    Talent + skills + accomplishments + quality of opposition + size as well because after all it's pound for pound and big guys feasting on smaller/naturally smaller opposition or fighters their own size is a lot different to small ones facing opponents a lot bigger, heavier and longer than you because obviously it's way more difficult when you're routinely giving away huge physical advantages. Much easier to be dominant when you're the bigger/much naturally bigger, longer, stronger and more powerful guy beating up on fighters who've come up in weight. It's not rocket science :facepalm:
     
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  9. StussyBrownnn

    StussyBrownnn Member Full Member

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    None of the guys you mentioned were #1 p4p in the world. One loss, especially in a close fight, doesn’t kick you off the list completely.
     
    StussyBrownnn, Dec 31, 2021
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  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Losses have consequences. Teofimo lost to Kambosos and is off the list. Especially when you lose to someone who was not on the list like Salido and Teofimo who beat Loma. This cult of the Lomasexuals is something to behold. Not accusing you personally but the cult of his supporters are really not balanced in their adoration.
     
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  11. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    The same cult you are into with your kind of fighters you clown.
     
    f1ght3rz, Dec 31, 2021
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  12. James Hudson

    James Hudson Active Member Full Member

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    Dog tired so just doing a top 5

    1/ Uysk
    2/ Inoue
    3/ Crawford
    4/ Canelo
    5/ Taylor
     
    James Hudson, Dec 31, 2021
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  13. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Canelo was swinging air because those guys were pretty much in survival mode, doesn’t really matter much anyway because Canelo’s new style is gonna sacrifice some rounds
     
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  14. Kosst Amojan

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    1. Gennady Golovkin
    2. Naygoe Inoue
    3. Erislandy Lara
    4. Terence Crawford
    5. Saul Alvarez
    6. Erol Spence
    7. Keith Thurman
    8. Guillermo Rigondeaux
    9. Roman Gonzalez
    10. Katzuto Ioka
    11. Alexander Usyk
    12. Juan Francisco Estrada
    13. Vasyl Lomachenko
    14. Josh Taylor
    15. Sriasaket Sor Rungvisai
    16. Luke Fury
    17. Emanuel Navarette
    18. Yordanis Ugas
    19. Gilberto Sanchez-Ramirez
    20. Geronta Davis
     
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  15. StussyBrownnn

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    Taylor has had a great run against some legit guys. Why doesnt he get more love?
     
    StussyBrownnn, Dec 31, 2021
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