Ron Lyle vs Sonny Liston primes

Lyle was a tough guy but I can’t think of any good reason to favor him against Liston.

 

Their's multiple Liston victims I'd favor Lyle including Williams, Machen, and perhaps Patterson. Their is absolutely nobody whom Lyle beat I'd favor over Liston or even any of the aforementioned victims (I can see Shavers beating Williams and Patterson but he's a clear underdog against both imo).

 

Liston would destroy Lyle. Similar to williams bouts

 

1960 Liston loses to Lyle. Too black and white.

Old Liston is on color film, and has a better chance. He showed himself to be dangerous against normal-spectrum opponents.

 

Neither is Liston if we stuck him in the 70s-90s

 

This is classic you have it backwards.

 

Lyle would be Listons best (H2H) win.

 

To be fair, both would lose against Marvin Hart, whose absence from film would render him unhittable.

 

Patterson was better even H2H, albeit quirky in what kind of fighters he'd match better against.

Cleveland Williams isn't far off from Lyle. Big puncher more famous for looking good in defeats.

 

All respect, the 1960 Liston would have probably stopped Norton, Quarry, and Shavers, beaten post-Zaire Ali, and given Frazier, Foreman, and Holmes incredible fights. Just my opinion.

 

No…he wouldn’t. Patterson and Machen were better and Zora was a Toss up. I like Lyle as a fighter and he was better then Cleveland but any guy who leaves himself that open with that bad of stamina is getting crushed by Liston.

 

I get what you mean with Floyd. I'd say for Liston, him beating Lyle would impress me more then Floyd simply because of the way Liston's career looked. He never had a dig deep fight. I think Lyle was made of tougher stuff... Not long after Foreman fought Ali and was embarrassed Lyle was ahead on the cards in the (11th?) before he was KO'd, he took shots from Foreman and could have won the fight with some refs in the ring he impressed me a lot more then a guy who drew with Machen and beat a novice Ernie Terrell.

 

Hm. Okay let me reword it. Him beating Lyle would impress me more because Liston never had the kind of fight Lyle would force him into.

 

I sympathize with all of this. Patterson was the first two time undisputed heavyweight champ, and before Iron Mike the youngest heavy champ I believe.

 

Not true. Machen, and Patterson (who did much better against common opponents even though they were aged) are much better H2H. I'd argue Williams was to.