Max Baer vs Cleveland Williams

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  1. Ali Holmes

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    Baer sparks Witherspoon
     
  2. Gazelle Punch

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    I’d Pick Max for this one. Real tough fight but Max chin saves him here while Williams eventually lets him down
     
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    Williams clowns his ass.
     
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    Is that your final answer?
     
  5. 70sFan865

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    We don't have such footage unfortunately, Schmeling is the closest one but Schmeling was far from conventional.
     
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    1931 was the first year he broke into the ratings.What was Baer's mental state when he lost to12-13-2? Stop with the excuses.
    I'd pick Baer here based on his chin, if I was certain he wouldn't suffer a panic attack as he did against Louis.
     
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    Being unranked means you aren't!
     
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    You've long believed that after being knocked down by Moore , Marciano didn't start for the ropes expecting a standing 8 count and that Harry Kessler, the referee didn't start a count.
    I proved both happened,so your," beliefs," aren't worth much are they?
     
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    Williams looks a better boxer than Baer, I think that is undeniable, Baer was crude as ****, often backhanding opponents.He had a great chin and a great right hand that's it.
     
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    Everybody that Baer knocked out, was a better boxer than him on paper.
     
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    I'm not disputing that ,but it is irrelevant when comparing his skill set to Williams.
     
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    Yeah and Baer faced and beat far more ranked contenders than Williams.
     
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    :lol: Comiskey in his prime lost to guys like the 14-22-2 "Big boy" Brown twice, and Clayton Worlds. If Williams had losses of these caliber, anywhere even remotely close to his prime, we'd never hear the end of it from you.
     
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    Yes he did, does that automatically mean he wins?
    If so we don't need to bother with any more of these matchups,we can just refer to the ratings! It will save us a lot of time!
     
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    And Baer , 27 years old lost to Willie Davies who was 13-12-2!
    When he lost to Baer, who of any note had Comiskey ever beat?
     
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