Is Vasyl Lomachenko p4p the GOAT?

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You said in a previous post that guys like Walters GRJ and Rigo put Loma over PBF? I really struggle to take you serious when you say stuff like that. To his credit even Loma downplayed his win over Rigo and said it really meant nothing. Walters beat Donaire at a weight he had no business at GRJ was a good win when we saw it back then but who has GRJ beat? His career his been a huge disappointment for the most point. You say PBF had some names that only look nice then what does Loma have? His best win is who? Loma has done nothing to be ranked over PBF on a P4P atg list it's a ridiculous take and he has 2 bad losses as well.
     
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  2. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's arguably not even P4P the best of his era or the previous one. Canelo, Inoue, Usyk, Floyd and Pacquiao all have a better case for the P4P GOAT, and I still don't think any of them are.
     
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  3. Pimp C

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    So now he had 2 world level performances and that's supposed to mean something???:risas3: Who did Commey beat? What did he do in them? Get KTFO and dominated in both.

    I saw Loma have his way with Lopez in the rounds he actually fought. He stunned and hurt Lopez in those rounds with the exception of the 12th. I'd pick Loma in a heartbeat in the rematch because rematches usually favor the better boxer. You don't give a boxer like Loma another chance against a flawed guy like Lopez. He will pick Lopez apart and It wouldn't shock me if he stopped Lopez in the rematch. I don't want to hear anymore of this if Lopez is the same ****, he's 23 FFS with 15 fights not 35 with 45 fights.

    You're full of excuses I don't buy into excuses like you. Just like I don't buy the Loma shoulder excuses is the reason why he lost to Lopez, I don't buy your Lopez wasn't the same fighter excuse. It makes no sense. Lopez was the same fighter, he just fought someone who was extremely mentally tough and refused to be bullied. He outboxed and beat up Lopez no excuses period! What you fail to realize is that Lopez is a very flawed fighter he can't adjust and has no plan B. Kambosos made adjustments throughout their fight and Lopez was lost without a clue. Only trying to land a hail Mary shot, that's it. So don't tell about Lopez not being the same you sound like a fool and an excuse maker.

    Lastly, I said if Haney can stand up to Lopez' attack he will outbox him to a UD win. Tank and Lopez would be a war no doubt, Tank has the better chin and is more rugged he could very easily stop Lopez. Garcia is arguably the biggest puncher at 135 he could easily knock Lopez the **** out as well as get knocked out. This division is full of good fights hopefully these guys will start fighting each other.
     
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  4. 6.5winmag

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    pac rates higher than loma
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Yeah, he's crazy. One thing that'll be funny will be pulling up his inconsistencies later on.
     
  6. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's the type to say something stupid that he doesn't even believe, but sine it was said about his fave...he has to 'return the favor'.
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    You're a ****ing idiot. I'm not dressing Commey up as a world level win, you're just imagining I am. The only bone I'll throw to Commey, is that he's a better LW than anyone Tank or Haney have beaten.

    No, you didn't. You never saw Loma have his way with Lopez, because it didn't happen. Lomachenko won four close rounds, then nearly got KTFOd when he tried to steal the show at the end. You're blind if you think there was no difference in quality between Lopez against Loma and Kambosos.

    No, what you fail to realise is Lopez was a multifaceted fighter with a high ring IQ who fell in love with his power and believed his own hype. He just happened to do it against a tough, gutsy mutha****er who was there to win.

    It's convenient you don't buy into excuses when it suits you. You're happy to excuse Mayweather's close fights; but not Loma's? But not Lopez's? You're a clown. Plain and simple. It's funny, you're excusing Loma for his loss because you think he fought a stupid fight, but you're not Lopez? GTFO. The Lopez from two fights earlier would've knocked Kambosos the **** out.

    Garcia and Haney couldn't take a back hand from Lopez if they put their chins together. And even if they could, they'd still lose. Haney especially, even if he had a granite chin - which he obviously doesn't - would still lose to Lopez.
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

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    You can shove whatever response you've got up your arse, Gimp. You're going round in circles and sounding like an idiot. You actually even admitted in this thread you don't even believe half the **** you're talking but God forbid anyone compare to Mayweather!
     
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  9. Pimp C

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    Commey isn't anything to write home about Linares is better than Commey and Pedraza at 130 is better than him as well. Are you still high from last night George?

    You're the excuse maker here not me. Don't get mad at me because you want to say a 23 year old fighter with 16 fights will never be the same after his loss to Kambosos. You want to make an excuse for the way Lopez looked against Kambosos, I already explained to you why Kambosos exploited Lopez yet you just write it off as Lopez wasn't right and discredit Kambosos win. LMFAO! And you have the nerve to try and down me as if I don't know what I'm talking about??? Excuse maker!


    I said Loma didn't engage in the first 6 rounds and he didn't for the most part that's not an excuse those are facts. When he decided to fight he won rounds except the last one and lost the fight fair and square. An excuse would be me saying Loma lost because of a bad shoulder clown or he didn't look like the same Loma. Fighters fall in love with their power all the time and find ways to still win, Donaire did that's an excuse.


    You're an excuse maker George and I'm glad people are here to see it. PBF had some bad performances mainly due to age and injury but I don't need to make excuses for him because he still won those fights and never lost.:deal: Even if he did I wouldn't make an excuse I'd say he lost fair and square and move on.

    It's all speculation until they meet in the ring. You very well may be right and I could be as well. I unlike you won't make excuses though if the fights don't go the way I predicted them to go.
     
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  10. VG_Addict

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    Terrible post. Lopez wouldn't be one of Floyd's top 15 wins. Floyd would have embarrassed Lopez at 135.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

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    Mayweather embarrassed most fighters. Lopez would be in his ten best wins and your high if you think otherwise.
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Read my other post. I'm done with your bull****.
     
  13. VG_Addict

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    Pacquiao
    Corrales
    Marquez
    Canelo
    Judah
    Cotto

    Shall I continue?
     
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  14. Pimp C

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    LMFAO!:risas3::risas3::risas3::wave:
     
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  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Can you not count to ten?

    Judah isn't a better win than Lopez. Neither is Corrales. But other than that, please, feel free.
     
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