Yeah, Fury too. Once a guy has a good chin and is fifty or sixty functional pounds heavier it's just not happening for me when you're discussing a guy who was best in the world at some point. Two guys who are the best in the world won't have big differences between them in terms of how good they are, but fifty pounds and 5" (or whatever) is an awful lot. Finally though, note what I said. I said that I wouldn't pick someone to get it done. And I wouldn't. If Jack Dempsey was fighting Vitali, I'd pick Vitali. Then, if Dempsey won and there was a rematch, I'd pick Vitali again. I've been wrong before is the point. Size isn't everything but it's a thing. It's incredibly rare to see two world-class opponents with, say, 30lbs between them and the smaller guy wins. It hardly ever happens. Louis and There is double that between Vitali and Dempsey.
I can actually agree with this. Vitali was almost all muscle, had a solid chin, good stamina, a high work rate, and knew how to fight tall. Any fighter who regularly came into the ring below 200 in their prime would be giving up 40 lbs of muscle, essentially fighting a guy 5-6 weight classes above them with no catch weight. I really don't see how the smaller guy would win outside of a punchers chance or freak cut.
In the thread about who might have beaten Vitally Klitschko, I made the following observation: "The advocates of modern/big fighters, build men with mediocre records, up into monsters! To them these fighters represent, what a head to head monster should look like, and that is everything to them! Doesn't matter if they beat one man ranked in the top ten, and they had to sell their kidney to get the win! Vitally is kind of the exception that proves the rule." Having repeated that observation, I have to say that you grossly over value his head to head ability, and Fury's too. We cannot simply ignore his resume when assessing how he would do head to head. He lost to the two best men that he faced. His best wins are Sanders and Peter, and after that his resume thins out very quickly. This leaves us to ponder the question of whether he would still have looked so impressive, if he had faced several times as many quality fighter. I happen to think that he would have done a lot better with different breaks, but woulda coulda shoulda. He should not be favored over the best heavyweights in the history of the sport, and that includes the very best who occasionally fell below the magic 200lb mark.
When two guys have a fight in the real world, do you just pick the guy who has the best resume every time?