Why did Pacquiao refuse random drug testing for the Mayweather fight in 2010?

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  1. derekcantona

    derekcantona Member Full Member

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    Arum in particular did not want this fight because of what Floyd did to him. Floyd tried to cut Arum out altogether - this is how the Cotto fight was made. Floyd was accused of ducking Cotto, he told him they could fight if he left Top Rank, he left, they fought - at 154 no less. No 147, no 144 or whatever it was. I’ve no doubt that Pacquiao himself is a warrior and he would fight Mayweather in a car park, but that smelled badly of Arum and it’s why Roach only came out with this years later because it didn’t matter any more, the fight was made. Bob realized he needed to cash his chips in. Pac was great but they were hyping him up by fighting Floyd’s leftovers at times and hoping the fans would buy into the triangle theory crap of ‘oh, Pac Ko’d Hatton much quicker than Mayweather and now he’s running lol!!!11’

    There was post-fight video of Pac (I forget which, I know that makes it sound like something that Little Carmine from the Sopranos would say), he was asked who he wants next as a bait question with Floyd as the obvious answer - all he could say was ‘talk to my promoter, Bob Arum’. That suggests to me that Bob wasn’t ready to risk his cash cow yet. A fine business decision. I think Pac himself though fancied his chances, he’s a legit ATG and had his pride wounded following their fight because he came to win.
     
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  2. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    You're reaching and it's quite sad the extremes you'll go to defend a blatant duck.

    Floyd said Ali fought guys he should have never fought.

    Floyd said that Ward shouldn't fight Kovalev.

    Floyd said that Clenelo shouldn't fight Golovkin.

    Floyd said that Tank doesn't need to fight Lomachenko because Lomachenko is old.

    Floyd said Clenelo earned the right to pick and choose, just like he did in his own career.

    And the fact that Floyd refused to drug test under VADA is a clear admission that it was never about drug testing.

    TOO EASY.

    :deal:
     
  3. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    "Everything in life is about timing. I have a good team and I waited until the time was right."

    “You can’t rush everything in life. Certain things aren’t meant to be rushed."


    — Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Floyd said Ali fought guys he should have never fought.

    Floyd said that Ward shouldn't fight Kovalev.

    Floyd said that Clenelo shouldn't fight Golovkin.

    Floyd said that Tank doesn't need to fight Lomachenko because Lomachenko is old.

    Floyd said Clenelo earned the right to pick and choose, just like he did in his own career.

    And the fact that Floyd refused to drug test under VADA is a clear admission that it was never about drug testing.

    NO BRAINER. TOO EASY.
     
  4. derekcantona

    derekcantona Member Full Member

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    You rebuked nothing.
     
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  5. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Sure, if you choose to ignore direct quotes from Floyd saying he waited until the time was right to fight Pac.

    Or that he's on record saying Ali, Ward, and Clenelo shouldn't fight certain guys.

    Or that he's on record saying he won't let Tank fight Lomachenko and to aim all criticisms of opponent selection on him.

    Or that Clenelo earned the right to pick and choose just like he did.
     
  6. derekcantona

    derekcantona Member Full Member

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    Btw, Pac fans should hate Bob Arum. The guy is a leech. Pac could have done so much better with Haymon as an advisor on a fight by fight basis.
     
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  7. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    Cause he could.

    Simple as that.
     
  8. derekcantona

    derekcantona Member Full Member

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    Right time financially. Bob had to soften his stance - he needed to get paid from Pac. Mayweather was constantly goading Pac to leave Arum - why didn’t he? I guarantee that fight gets made much earlier without Bob.
     
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  9. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    He claimed he was afraid of needles apparently. It took him another 6 years to overcome his fear.
     
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  10. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Speaking of timing! It's time you stop hating Floyd and give him your undivided love and support. LOL
     
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  11. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So Haymam can advise AGAINST a title shot?? :lol:
     
  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac never said that you illiterate poser as poser. Arum said that. Just like your uncle said you're a poser ass twat of a fake nephew
     
  13. derekcantona

    derekcantona Member Full Member

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    Titles? You think these guys cared about belts? These guys (Mayweather, Pacquiao) transcended those.
     
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  14. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Wrong again. If anything, Bob was probably thinking rematch already in his head no matter the outcome. Pac-May was a gold mine.

    They tried to negotiate the fight again in 2010 and Floyd walked. Here's a statement from Ross Greenburg, the then President of HBO Sports (a neutral party).

    "Both times, the fight was very close to being made.
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    I certainly don't have that answer. But, you know, it was very close. It was so, so, close. I think that it was so close that I don't think that it's going to take much to make the fight the third time around."
     
  15. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    He loves Floyd. He cannot help it. He hates the fact that he loves Floyd. It gets to him.
     
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