Was 70s George Foreman a bigger or smaller man than Samuel Peter?

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  1. Eddie Ezzard

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    Does your arm get tired then?
     
  2. FrankinDallas

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    I've lost 2 inches off my arm the past 20 years.
     
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  3. dinovelvet

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    Unknown , however I know one thing for sure and its that Old Foreman would knock Peters into a crumpled heap within 4 rounds tops.
    4Man , even even the Sequel version is a horrible matchup for face first sluggers with cement boots.
     
  4. Pugguy

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    LOL. If you’re a righty, sometimes you have to go southpaw to finish the job - very counterintuitive and much less efficient - probably not even worth it.
     
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  5. Moggy94

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    Here's Samuel Peter at 237 pounds which was his lightest, yes he was bigger than 70's Foreman. People seem to think having abs and being more cut makes you bigger than a guy that doesn't but that not the case, also genetics plays a part as some people just ain't built for aesthetics.

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  6. dinovelvet

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    70's Foreman looks bigger. Broader , bigger shoulder and arms. Broader skeletal structure. Looks taller too

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2H1UUlCEAAEuTh.jpg
     
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  7. Moggy94

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    Don't see it to be honest but we need a good picture of Peter
     
  8. Pugguy

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    That’s why I miss the more comprehensive tales of the tape - if accurately compiled of course, as and when.

    Generally but not always, wrist and ankle sizes can be a good indicator of natural size/frame.

    But then we see Foreman’s fist size listed as 12 1/2” and think, no way, at least not as compared to others for whom 12 1/2” to 13” has been claimed. It would seem GF had at least 13” + mitts - though not as big as Liston’s as per photos of them together.
     
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  9. cross_trainer

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    Here Peter is at 250 with his shirt off and hands raised before the McCline bout. Peter was younger here. His abdominal muscles are clearly visible.

    https://www.saddoboxing.com/6138-jameel-mccline-samuel-peter.html

    Here he is at 243 one fight before Wladimir Klitschko, so again, younger. Weighing in against Taurus Sykes. Abs visible.

    https://www.boxing247.com/weblog/archives/104620

    His belly tended to protrude, but I don't know that that directly translated into him being fat. To see what I mean, here's another picture of him before the Sykes fight, without tensing his abdominals:

    http://www.pound4pound.com/Year/2005/page20.html

    Unlike Sykes (who does have a spare tire), you can still see Peter's abs here, but his belly definitely protrudes despite the apparently lower body fat. More like he has swelling in his stomach than fat.
     
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  10. Eddie Ezzard

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    How could you possibly say such a thing?

    Never, I say to you. Now get gone and take your blasphemy with you.
     
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  11. Moggy94

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    I think these pictures are proof that Peter was bigger than 70's Foreman but I'm sure people will still deny.
     
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    The problem here is that Foreman is such a popular figure on these forums (And rightfully so) That if you say a lesser boxer is bigger people think you're saying they are better which is not the case, there are heavyweights bigger than Foreman in Boxing, Kickboxing and MMA such as The Klitschko Brothers, Lennox Lewis, Jameel McCline, Rico Verhoeven, Jerome Le Banner, Francis Ngannou, etc That doesn't make them better/greater than Foreman, it's just that they are physically bigger.
     
  14. Pugguy

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    There’s a condition, diastasis recti, that sees the space between the left and right abs widen - often brought on by pregnancy - rule that out for Peter - but weight lifting can be another cause - apparently it can compromise trunk stability and mobility and can cause back and pelvis pain. Not a doctor but based on the vision, Peter seems to fit the description.

    Come to think of it, young George (certainly not old George) never seemed to exhibit anything approaching note worthy abs. Prime Liston did - I’ve read that Sonny was into doing 1000s of sit ups/push ups on a daily basis.

    Cleve Williams had some solid abs which could make it appear as if his stomach was distended, the degree of which being subject to posture -
     
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  15. Pugguy

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    Actually, here to stay - at least for the time being.