David Tua vs Deontay Wilder

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Wonder how Tua Vs stiverne would go.........lol

 

Tua had slow feet, not slow hands. Tua actually had decent hand speed, i have said that Tua's combination punching speed is an overlooked trait. Ruiz is almost as limited, obese, lacks even more motivation and got dropped and hurt numerous times by shot to bits Arreola.

Ruiz has a better resume but its a nigh fluke win via temple shot against Joshua and Ruiz will never beat anyone of note ever again. If Joshua tried to fight Tua at close range like he did Andy Ruiz you dont think Tua would smash him into oblivion ? And trust me it wouldn't take a temple shot. That left hook connects and it's over. Tua would jump on him unlike Klitschko and the power to close it in seconds unlike Ruiz

 

So when we talk about AJ you say he sucks cause he got beat up by Ruiz, but now it was just a lucky punch and the whole thing was a fluke? Ok got it.

Also Tua did not have fast hands. He’d mainly throw slow single shots and would only put fast punches together when he had his man hurt. That doesn’t mean he was fast, most pro heavyweights can put fast punches together if they tried. Just look at slow ones like Foreman and Joyce going for the kill, they can actually put together some pretty explosive combos, that doesn’t make them fast, especially since they’re slow as hell for 90% of the fight.

If Tua fought AJ, it would look like the Ruiz rematch. If Tua fought Parker, it would be a wide decision win for Parker. I don’t even think Tua would win as many rounds as Ruiz did against Arreola. Most of Tua’s ko’s were against journeymen who stood right in front of him, if his opponent tries to keep their distance they would often have success. That’s all Wilder has to do with his height, reach, and speed advantage, just at least try to keep his distance and he would honestly do just fine against Tua

 

Tuas handspeed was pretty blistering when coupled with his aggression..people tend to remember the 260 pound version of Tua as opposed to the 220 pound wrecking ball...and it's it's like comparing night to day.

Don't get me wrong he wasn't the greatest heavyweight ever but he was alot of fun to follow as most limited one hit ko artists are

 

Tua wasn't actually that slow at all but he spent around ninety percent of the time plodding after his opponent doing very little. He was as explosive as anyone when he let his hands go though, but outside of the Ibeabuchi fight it was like everything was stuck in mud, his feet, his hands, his brain...

 

Read it again. I said nigh fluke win. It's clear Joshua was having a bit of trouble with the pressure and exchanged with the smaller, quicker man like an idiot so it wasn't A fluke but it was close because Ruiz seems to lack power based on most of his performances. Also it wasn't a fluke due to the fact that Joshua has questionable durability. Staggered and stunned by Usyk several times, put on bambi legs Whyte, stopped twice in the ametures, rocked by single punches from Povetkin. Not bad but not good. As i said Ruiz isn't going to beat anybody of note ever again and Tua has the deeper resume

You must be referring to the fat 260 pound Tua but even fat Tua didn't have "slow hands". Saying that the 225lb Tua earlier on in his career had slow hands is an absolutely ridiculous claim (if you claim that to be the case). Watch him in there with Maskaev (who had better boxing ability than Parker) He wasn't as fast as Ruiz or Parker but he's good handspeed

Is this supposed to be a joke ? Tua would slaughter a prime Chris Arreola let alone 40 year old Arreola. Hell Bermane Stiverne did it inside 6. Arreola is tailor made for Tua, he is a slugger with the typical mexican style that perfers guys that come to him. Tua would love that and is the bigger puncher and better combination puncher by far.

Also i think Joshua outboxes Tua but the question was would Tua stop Joshua quicker than Ruiz did if Joshua tried to fight Tua at close range like he did Ruiz in round 3 and the answer is likely yes.

And Parker vs Tua goes like Tua vs Nicholson or Tua vs Maskaev. Parker was hurt badly by a left hook from Whyte and almost wobbled into the ropes during recovery so it's not like Tua can't hurt him and finish him off. Watching the full fight Parker wasn't running around from Ruiz the ring like the other 2 Tua opponents mentioned. Parker was working behind the jab at range but he was also exchanging a lot against Ruiz. Could this be because Ruiz doesn't have power or because Parker isn't good on the backfoot. Either way him exchanging with Tua will bite him in the backhalf of the fight.

 

Stiverne probably outboxes him for rounds then gets sloppy, eats a big left hook or two, and goes down late in the fight while up on all three cards.

 

Tua was limited you can't deny it but when he weighed around 225lb he had good handspeed. Not like Ruiz but good.

Tua vs Maskaev is my favorite fight because is shows his limited ability against world class fighters but also his ability to carry power late and his underrated handspeed

 

The only top HW of recent years with handspeed in combination like Ruiz was Corrie Sanders. Maybe a young Joe Parker came close as well, but he lacked the fluidity of Ruiz or Sanders.

Tua could never throw combinations like that, but his individual shots were hugely explosive, and coming out of that plodding overall package could often catch fighters out. He was also not averse to chaining his left hook Povetkin style, only he had way more oomph on his shots than Povetkin.

 

A poll could be launched Felix Savon vs Bronze Bomber:

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I think Tua would go through him like a buzzsaw ....n that's any version of Tua...but then I thought stiverne was crap

 

He was crap, but then you didn't need to be an amazing boxer to outbox Tua as fighters like Jeff Wooden proved. Trouble was, sooner or later you'd switch off or get overconfident or Tua would just decide to wake up and then you'd generally find yourself a slobbering heap on the canvas.

Tua's the type of guy that on his best day could've brutally KOed Povetkin but on his worst day get outboxed by someone like Gerald Washington.

 

Thats... very accurate actually

 

Funnily enough i just realized Tua was still active when Wilder was on the come up