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Eddie Hearn has claimed that Tyson Fury has now decided, "he doesn't wanna fight Oleksandr Usyk"

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Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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Dubblechin said: ↑

That would be great. But something tells me, after Fury dispatches Whyte, that Hearn and Joshua will come with more money and try to convince Fury and Arum that Fury-Joshua is BIGGER.

And Arum will bite. No doubt.

Usyk will be left fighting WBA, IBF and WBO mandatories.
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I can equaly see that happening.

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I so hope the Whyte vs Fury fight happens and Fury finally fights a quality opponent for the first time since Wlad in 2015. I think Fury will just vacate the title though to fight Charr or Helenius.

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Leeroy84 said: ↑

I'm with Fury, screw paying out of his own money for AJ and Whyte to step aside.
Smash Whyte up on PPV, then take the undisputed against Usyk later in year.
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I thought Fury said he doesn't care about the money....

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Hearn was desperate to have Fury fight Usyk with AJ getting a guaranteed shot at the winner. Thus he wants to pretend that Fury "ducked" Usyk, who AJ had an immediate rematch clause with! Hearn knows that AJ will probably lose the rematch, which would tank his value and damage him psychologically even further and possibly scupper the hypothetical Fury-AJ "superfight" and all the cash that would entail. It's very clear that AJ was willing to come to the table to step aside, so taking the rematch now doesn't look as brave as it did before. AJ was looking for a way out but has been forced back into it by Fury not taking his place.

If Usyk beats AJ again and Fury beats Whyte, Fury will fight Usyk for undisputed. Of course, morons will give Fury no credit (just as they didn't for the Wlad away or Wilder away x3 fights) and then claim that he's ducking someone else. Par for the course.

Tactically it makes sense for Fury to let AJ fight Usyk again (though financially it may well cost him as it reduces the likelihood of Fury-AJ ever happening but if AJ wins and revives his reputation then it could both give him an easier fight and more money) let Usyk age and incur wear and tear in the rematch and get another chance to study him (it would only be his 4th HW fight). This is questionable though as it gives Usyk more high level SHW experience and Fury could be declining at a faster rate, considering his history. However, Fury has been extremely inactive over the last 23 months, so it makes sense to get another activity fight in against Whyte. It also made a lot of sense to mess AJ and Hearn around with an implied willingness to fight Usyk next, as it serves to annoy/troll them, destabilise AJ further psychologically and gives him less time to prepare. Same for Whyte (also exposed as being willing to take step aside instead of insisting on his "mandatory" shot!) who has been frustrated, stuck in limbo and increasing in age/inactivity.
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Fury fears The Slickness. If the opportunity for undisputed next against The Slickness was genuinely on the table and he is the one who put a stumbling block in the way and ran in the opposite direction of the smoke then he has to shoulder the blame for it. Usyk knows not fear and he always runs towards the smoke not in the opposite direction from it.

That 20 mill in the pot for the step aside or whatever the correct figure is should be added to Usyk's purse for being the man and the real fighting man he is. He's the One True King, the Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and the Iron Throne belongs to him.

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Banana-Rama said: ↑

Fury V Usyk doesn't happen because Fury said no = somehow not Fury's fault
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You do realise both Whyte and Joshua have to be satisfied with the step aside? Someone has to pay them.

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Usyk manager is a man of his word. He preety much confirm what Hearn said that Fury is all talk, but he is a goddamn coward and is backing from Usyk fight.
This is a clear duck.
Fury fans trying to defend him after the fiasco with AJ fight is a biased blindgirls that doesnt care about boxing, only their primadona.

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Mitch87 said: ↑

I so hope the Whyte vs Fury fight happens and Fury finally fights a quality opponent for the first time since Wlad in 2015. I think Fury will just vacate the title though to fight Charr or Helenius.
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Yeah no.

MrBarry465, Jan 27, 2022

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Anthony Joshua doesn't want to fight him and Eddie doesn't either

Eddie is projecting

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Serge said: ↑

Fury fears The Slickness. If the opportunity for undisputed next against The Slickness was genuinely on the table and he is the one who put a stumbling block in the way and ran in the opposite direction of the smoke then he has to shoulder the blame for it. Usyk knows not fear and he always runs towards the smoke not in the opposite direction from it.

That 20 mill in the pot for the step aside or whatever the correct figure is should be added to Usyk's purse for being the man and the real fighting man he is. He's the One True King, the Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and the Iron Throne belongs to him.
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Fury wasn't willing to p*ss away millions paying willing duckers AJ and Whyte off in order to solve AJ and Hearn's problems for them and save their operation. He would also be going into undisputed on the back of one fight in 27 or so months: if the shoe was on the other foot you would be saying "these snakes are just trying to get Usyk half-cooked, it's entirely reasonable for him to be fully matchfit in a fight of this magnitude" and you would be right.

If Usyk beats rematch clause AJ and Fury beats supposed mandatory Whyte and Fury-Usyk doesn't happen within 6-12 months, then we can start pointing fingers. Until then it's BS.

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I am so fed up with these sagas in boxing. There's plenty of money to go round. Just make the fights already. In the words of Monty Python ....

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GET ON WITH IT

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Fury ain't paying a s... for step aside, its the Saudi dummy. Usyk promoter said everyone agreed and Fury is the one who backs off.
And this while constantly calling Usyk out and how easy of a fight he is.
I don't get how anyone can defend this blatant fat cheater!
Undisputed and a history is on the line, so ducking this match is huge!!
F*** Eddie but i 100% believe Usyk manager, his whole team is no b.c.

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NEETzschean said: ↑

Fury wasn't willing to p*ss away millions paying willing duckers AJ and Whyte off in order to solve AJ and Hearn's problems for them and save their operation. He would also be going into undisputed on the back of one fight in 27 or so months: if the shoe was on the other foot you would be saying "these snakes are just trying to get Usyk half-cooked, it's entirely reasonable for him to be fully matchfit in a fight of this magnitude" and you would be right.

If Usyk beats rematch clause AJ and Fury beats supposed mandatory Whyte and Fury-Usyk doesn't happen within 6-12 months, then we can start pointing fingers. Until then it's BS.
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It's like people just expect Fury to cough up money to fighters so he can force them aside.

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Anyone questioning Fury's desire to fight any man born of their mother will be sent to a reconditioning camp in northern Manchester. You've been warned.

Fury Whyte build up is going to be hilariously good, it will take away the limelight from Usyk & AJ.

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How come people weren't getting angry with Joshua for not paying Wilder step aside money last summer?

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lordlosh said: ↑

Fury ain't paying a s... for step aside, its the Saudi dummy. Usyk promoter said everyone agreed and Fury is the one who backs off.
And this while constantly calling Usyk out and how easy of a fight he is.
I don't get how anyone can defend this blatant fat cheater!
Undisputed and a history is on the line, so ducking this match is huge!!
F*** Eddie but i 100% believe Usyk manager, his whole team is no b.c.
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Lol, theres absolutely 0 evidence of who was willing to pay what in all of this.

MrBarry465, Jan 27, 2022

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