Prime Louis Versus Lewis

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  1. Pugguy

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    You still can’t track yourself away from the fact that boxing isn’t a “dance off” - your uninformed accent on movement is BAD (hope that little gem sinks in - )

    The movement has to be effective - you will see a lot of fighters “move” but the manner in which they move is useless and serves NO advantage. Say, the human hover board Tommy Morrison moved well…..right into not so great Bentt’s punches.

    Louis beat Walcott twice, KO’d him in the rematch - did Walcott’s movement get him the win? - NO. Walcott was actually doing his “thing” (moving) when Louis timed him and started him on his way.

    The movement Walcott offered would trouble any fighter - but Louis was solving it and then lowered the boom. Lewis didn’t move like Walcott and was a way bigger target. There’s a LOT you’re not getting and/or ignoring.

    You’re not watching the older films properly - you suffer from black and white “blindness”. Carnera was on the move v Joe, circling and popping the jab. Louis caught and destroyed him anyway. How did Lewis move? - not a lot and you can’t even break it down.

    Rejecting Bentt v Morrison is DUMB. You’re simply avoiding visual contradiction of your claims. How much skill and movement is one showing when they’re destroyed in 1:33 of the first rd? Bentt was not the skilled boxer you’re falsely trying to claim him to be - and you’re doing that to avoid the truth of your man Morrison.

    Likewise with Mercer, by no means a notable mover but gave Lewis all he could wish for. What do you do with that example? You pretend that Ray was some elaborate mover.

    You pretend a lot. You pretend a mere 23 yo Mike Tyson wasn’t in his prime when Buster Douglas comprehensively outboxed and flattened Mike. Your brain circuitry can’t handle the demise of your hero so you need to invent false compensators.

    Meanwhile, Louis fully wears his loss to Schmeling but comes back in a HUGE way in general career terms and then exacts the most definitive revenge possible when he rematches Max. Mike never did anything that - the truth hurts you, doesn’t it?

    You wrote a longer post but it bore no resemblance to a logical, fact based analysis. I mean you already take up a lot of space with labels such as idiot, liar, stupid, dumb etc. - little room left to back up your “one liners” and you never do (back them up).

    You keep saying black and white era. Era refers to the then, current film tech, NOT the boxing tech. You keep expressing more than stupid sentiments and making simplistic associations like :-

    BW = low tech - makes Mongo angry. I mean, seriously. LOL.

    Then there’s the way you write “Stop saying, stop repeating….” It’s a free board Bubba Louie - get with the program on that. It’s your own deficiency if you can’t handle alternate opinions, especially when those opinions are invariably far better rationalised than your own.

    Sharpen your game up, including your low tech writing, clearly a relic from the BW “era” - I’m sure you can do better.

    Oh, btw, I am completely right and you are totally wrong - it’s funny and more than odd that you can’t see that - stop pretending to yourself. Stop keeping it false.
     
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  2. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "There are none so blind as those who will not see".
     
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  3. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WOW
     
  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I'd take the Big Dog probably by stoppage.

    Lewis should, Louis could.
     
  5. moneytheman12

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    we can solve this by showing proof to prove me wrong show a match where joe used as many angles as jers did or any good 70s-90s fighter and a match where he wasnt slow and stiff which match

    cause now your trolling me doesn't work or does lying cause I always ask you crazy people to prove me wrong you wont

    dumb quotes like who wasnt doesnt matter cause nobody just walks in the ring and falls so that quote is bull the point that matters is before which you people like to always leave out

    jers lost cause he decided to go toe to toe he never while he was moving looked as stiff or basic as joe

    I can handle logic when it's used not dumb unrealistic thoughts that never would happen your trolling me not me trolling you so I have the right to tell you people to stop cause your making your making yourself look like a idiot saying dumb things

    shown here lennox moving way better then joe ever showed
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    use of angles to punch while moving and on the defense is way more then joe ever showed
    liar cause you said joe was more skilled yet missing these advances lennox had and the people he fought

    why wont you people ever name anybody big with skill joe beat oh cause he never did like I said easy to impress I see

    and I told you brainwashed people last year I dont believe in a right or wrong way of using words so it doesnt apply to me your thoughts are brainwashed mine aren't

    not watching the old vid right you say how am I supposed to oh I should act like you and not compare well i dont do that I compare and compared those dudes moved like trash like i always said they move bad and were trash on a skill level compared your the one not comparing right

    it's a vid of ali making fun of joe for the reasons I said was he wrong no he seen how bad they moved like I said he seen how stiff and slow they were they would be destroyed by mutiple 70s-90s fighters its real easy to see

    you crazy people been exposing yourselves for years as idiots stuck in time I just call you out on it every time a person says how wrong you are for saying dumb things or telling you people how its wrong your exposing yourself I can not call you people out on it doesnt mean I cant see your exposing yourself for being a crazy idiot

    your right yet cant show any match to prove me wrong good job lying to yourself
     
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  6. Pugguy

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    Nice rant.

    You continue to prove yourself as the ONE and ONLY idiot on this board.

    There are most certainly correct and incorrect ways of writing.

    Your “way” is low tech, hot air and littered with pointless labels intended to insult, such as liar, dumb, crazy, idiot etc. They’re the “go tos” of a lower intellect - unable to articulate themselves or prove their point. I could be invoking descriptors such as. imbecile, moron or cretin - which actually slot individuals into various degrees of stupidity. But I won’t. The more you post, the more accurately you classify and calibrate yourself.

    So, congratulations, you just brought NOTHING to the table yet again and addressed NONE of the points put to you. For that, you can claim unerring consistency.

    Better you sit back and watch your vids of your heroes Mike and Tommy and dream your little dreams of what might’ve been but clearly wasn’t -

    It might serve your own delusions but trying to irrationally denigrate Louis and his highly successful career to compensate for their failures isn’t going to change a thing in anyone else’s normal and educated eyes. And that’s just another fact you’re trying to pretend isn’t real. You’re making no progress here.
     
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  7. moneytheman12

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    no vid like I told you couldnt prove good job exposing yourself like they always do for being crazy trolls my facts I can always proof

    it is never said quotes like not understanding or lies like this boxer moved good yet vid shows he didnt

    or is it any vid of boxers I show that move as stiff or basic as those in that era which are fact not opinion cause when compared they look like trash including joe which even before those boxers were born jers made him look like the rest you cant erase that neither can you make joe fight a way he never showed on vid all you have is pretend how he fought in your mind like they all have

    he was the best skilled yet facing jers who moved way better then he ever did proved that is a lie

    he was the best skilled flawed since mutiple boxers after him moved way better and smoothly and not slow or like Mercer which you named exposing yourself was a tiptoer yet he moved way better then joe and was better all around he is the one you should be giving praise to not a inferior basic ver which joe was

    which shows your stuck on name only like all of these crazy people are no person with any good logic can see joe and see he moves better then 70s-90s boxers or do they see he could beat them when he obviously wouldnt
     
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  8. Pugguy

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    Same rubbish, different post.

    There are vids already here on this thread as well as those posted previously. You’ve been lead to the defining vision before but obviously, even after it has been considerately presented to you, no one can make you think.

    You can’t even understand or analyse what you’re “seeing”. The best you can do is mindlessly rant about an opponent that Louis actually knocked out and defeated - desperate as you are. Now it is literally getting beyond boring so go watch your vids of Mikey and Tommy instead and dream on….
     
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  9. moneytheman12

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    it is no proof liar it's no proof of joe moving good as mercer or being as skilled as him thats a lie and you know it

    or is it proof of joe facing anybody like him or a lennox all you have is weight nobody is skilled with weight and moves good your really just trolling exposing yourself and it's not s debate since you know im right and have been from the start even before I I responded to the bull your not a idiot or are you blind just like to act like it like the rest

    oh my family member tells me i can get a vintage TV and it looks better then hd cause it came out first and it used to look good do that means forever it does that's the logic isnt it remember you said that dumb quote lie how joe was more skilled yet lacking mutiple advances in movement and skill that mercer and others had

    like I told you i didnt have to respond the first time to call you out or anybody who says crazy bull they know already their trolling saying bull that they dont believe I can keep my mouth closed and let you expose yourself like you been doing and others before I existed here mutiple pages shows this me calling it out just exposes how crazy and trolley you people are cause you dont even believe the stuff your saying yet think people are dumb enough to think your serious it is funny I know
     
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  10. Pugguy

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    Yawn. Another non progressive rant.

    Nothing new.

    Louis was vastly more skilled than Mercer.

    Your uneducated eyes are simply blind to the obvious. Fortunately the majority of us aren’t similarly impaired.

    You also obviously didn’t watch properly (and it was in colour TOO) when 42 yo old, not so mobile, basically flat footed Larry Holmes schooled plodding Mercer - one of your mod., break dancing, “trophy” fighters.

    Boy, along with your 93 second fighter Morrison, you sure can pick ‘em. LOL. Basically, you’ve hit another logical brick wall for which you will try to invent more fiction because you like to keep it fake. .

    I have complete conviction in my properly rationalised opinions - you obviously don’t have the same confidence in your own, unqualified “one line” conclusions - that’s why you read like you’re imploding and having a nonsensical meltdown - and you KNOW it.

    Take the words “dumb”, “liar”, “trolley”, “bull”, “crazy” etc. out of all your posts and what are you left with? - VERY little and what is left is just unsupportable hot air anyway.
     
  11. 70sFan865

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    Pastor doesn't look stiff here, neither does Louis.
     
  12. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I said compared your looking at that time only compare it yea they are stiff and basic
     
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  13. Reinhardt

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    If Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall can get him outta there in his prime , so can the greatest combination puncher in heavyweight history.
     
  14. 70sFan865

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    No, I mean overall.
     
  15. moneytheman12

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    that only works when he is isnt compared and then it still doesnt cause like I always say jers looked like he was from the future joe didnt

    joe look better then the average but never from the future which your confusing
     
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