Joshua agrees step aside

Big time when the biggest payer is in Saudi and has a working relationship with Hearn.


I think top rank hoping Kinahan pulls some ties in Dubai. Or they get a site deal in vegas. Biggest issue is this fight sells in

Top Rank hold the cards as they will likely do a deal with fury to reduce his purse. Fixed purse of like £30m plus upside. Gives them an additional £10m on the offer without actually having to pay it. Only issue is that even at those figures Top Rank have to believe the fight generates that $40m and given it won’t in the US they will be tetchy

hearn has already said he’s given his cards away as he will offer what he believes is a fair offer for Dillian. So likely to be $40-50m range.

 

Seems whyte went quite because he was hoping for a 5 million furlough package.

Nice to see he's gonna have to earn his excessive wages with a prolonged beating from the gypsy king.

 

I think there's a fair few people who are disappointed by this. The best outcome would've been Fury vs Usyk and then Joshua vs Whyte in the interim for a shot at the winner. It's likely the logistics, ego and politics involved in making this happen would've made this a complete non starter anyway.

Usyk vs Joshua 2 and Fury vs Whyte is the second best outcome and hopefully means we get an undisputed fight towards the end of the year.

I think lots of Fury's obsessive haters on this forum were hoping he was going to fight Charr or Helenius because it suits their narrative. Lots of very creative mental gymnastics taking place on various threads by said haters to try and paint as if Fury was "ducking" someone or other. Ridiculous really - this news is good for the division and none of the fighters are "scared" of eachother.

 

This

 

Maybe, or you're just going by what Eddie said.

Anyway, Fury could have beaten Usyk and Joshua and a dozen tune ups of various levels ... and the critics here would STILL complain he didn't fight Dillian ****ing Whyte. So hopefully yeah, he will fight Whyte and beat him and put that nonsense to rest.

It's probably for the best that Whyte won't be getting millions to step aside. It's probably for the best that AJ won't be getting 15 million to step aside too.
I mean, these are obscene amounts of money, undeserved.

 

They're both weak sauce.

I honestly can't put one above the other in terms of skill.

 

You're talking like Fury didn't want am easy touch.

You know as well as I do that he's forgot a bunch of them.

 

Stop begging it.

If Tyson beat AJ & Uysk on top of Wilder x3 & Wlad, I would have no probs putting him over Lennox Lewis as our best ever Brit. Then again he didn't fight Haye, so maybe not...

 

I don't think *he* did necessarily. I think the fight he really wants is Joshua. He knows it's an enormous fight and huge money and seems confident he'd win. My gut feeling is he's a bit more uneasy about Usyk which I think is an intruiging match up.

I think the issue was that he wanted to keep active - he wants to fight in March and the Whyte (or any other) fight looked like it was drawing out. That's why cheaper less glamorous names were being suggested by his promoter - probably also as a negotiating tactic.

The bottom line is that it looks like he's fighting Whyte whilst Usyk and Joshua rematch, which all things considered is good for the division.

 

Well, you are sure he's fighting Helenius next anyway, which puts him miles behind. It could even be Charr, don't you think?

Personally I dont think Fury will ever be an all-time great. Maybe if he beats Usyk in very dominant fashion for the undisputed, you could argue him above Lennox Lewis, yeah.
But Lewis was beaten by two crap fighters, stopped, he went 1-1 with Rahman for ****s sake, so he's incredibly overrated anyway.

It's a national shame that we could even begin to regard those two as the country's best ever heavyweights, especially since one of them represented Canada twice at the Olympic games, lives in America, and this other guy has claimed to be Irish and clearly wants to be a Yank.

 

David Haye wouldn't even make the all time top 10 British heavyweights.

 

Lewis holds wins over Tyson, Holyfield, Bruno, Klitschko, Ruddock etc. What stage of their careers them opponents were at varies but that's far better than Fury for me.

 

Have a day off.

You are such a moany *******.

Stick Joshua in with Joe Joyce and watch him lose. What has Joshua done to deserve Whyte as an easy eliminator to compete for the undisputed? He literally just got smashed up by what Brixton Bomber was calling a powerless cruiserweight who is too small.

Where are the "too big, too strong" crew these days? A lot of so called experts on the forum, who have a high opinion of themselves, yapped on about Joshua's physical superiorities ad nauseam. He didn't look physically superior in there to me. He looked stiff and novicey.

 

That's true.
But if Fury cleans up the division by beating an undefeated Usyk this year, he'd rival Lewis.
Lewis suffers from losing a couple of fights to one punch by mediocre guys I wouldn't put quite in Wilder's league as punchers.
Honestly, if Whyte chins Fury into oblivion with one punch, that's kind of what we're dealing with.

 

I was part of the "too big, too strong" crew. For what it's worth, it's not the first time and it most certainly won't be the last time I'll call it wrong.