Would you Step Aside?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by RJJFan, Jan 28, 2022.


Step Aside?

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  1. Zhuge Liang

    Zhuge Liang Active Member Full Member

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    The answer is very obvious.

    Because until now, I still call it a BS. Too good to be true.

    I'd do it for $1 million, let alone $15 mil.
     
  2. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Its easier said then done. Floyd has earned more than AJ yet he still did a stupid fight with a youtuber for less money. No work for 15 million. No brainer. AJ will get another title shot.
     
  3. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    man, floyd was retired, for god's sake. That's not the same. That's not boxing that's pure showtime. Are we going to blame ali for "fighting" Inoki?
     
  4. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    What you mean not the same? We are talking about people who have made millions, 100 of millions not turning down free money for practically doing nothing. AJ would stupid if the offer was real and he turned it down. He will get his title shots again.
     
  5. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    I mean that floyd didnt reject a real boxing oportunity to fight an idiot youtuber.

    Stepping aside means refusing to be great. At least in this case. You have the oportunity to be in this kind of fight that forges legends, and you just step aside.

    That's why I think it is different, this money was free money to floyd. He had to sacrifice nothing.

    EDIT: imagine joshua comming back and schooling and stopping late Usyk. That fight would be for history. This kind of oportunities does not happen very often in a fighter's career. Are they worth 15 millions? well, to me, it depends on the money in my bank account.

    Could AJ step aside and have this oportunity of a legendary fight again? yes... or no... It depends on a lot of things. That's the risk, and that's why he is paid 15 millions.

    If you are confident that you will win, you lose no money by not stepping aside, since you can claim them later because your legacy skyrocked.
     
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  6. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I wouldn't take 15 million because some nerds online would say I'm ducking. Actually, that sounds like a bad reason. Of course I'd take it.
     
  7. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Would you take them with 200 millions already in the bank too?

    Anyway, I remind you you are losing money too, by fighting you would make way more than 15 millions, obviously.

    Winning more for doing you job. Winning less for doing nothing.

    "I prefer to do nothing and get paid some millions" or "I prefer to fight and make a lot of millions". Honestly, a champion with champion's mind will always chose to fight. Unless losing money by fighting because of crappy purse split or something.
     
  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I can take the 15 million and fight someone else.
     
  9. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    What is honor? A word. What is that word honor? Air.

    Take that money, Tony. Take it.
     
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  10. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    yes, if you can do that, then that's an obvious choice. But who can fight AJ to win the same money he would win vs Usyk (not Fury, because Fury would be fighting Usyk).

    I dont know. I said that it depended on my money, but the more I think about it, the more I know I wouldnt step aside (where I a champion material). And that's me, by only making numbers. An actual champion (who will never think about the posibility of not winning) would never step aside. I spank that punk, take all the millions, and then I spank the other punk and I take his millions too. That's what a champion's mind would think.

    But anyway, I'm not a champion, not even a pro boxer. You offer me 15 millions, and you will not have time to blink before I take the money and run. I'll never earn 15 millions in my whole life :(
     
  11. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    This isn't his first shot at a world title nor is it his last. This one fight does not make or break his career. You guys are making it out like this is a career defining fight for him, which it is not. He is 32 and have not been any brutal war. He should have at least 5 more years. Stepping aside cause some idiot is throwing serious money at you does not mean you are refusing to be great. Especially when you've had a pretty good career and more to come.

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    I'd like to add AJ is also in a no win situation. Just look at the Ruiz fight. He lost the first. Took rematch and won, yet people still **** on him for losing the first and then for winning by boxing instead of by a KO. If he beats Usyk in a rematch it will be the exact same thing.
     
  12. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    well, to be honest the rematch vs Usyk WILL be a career defining fight.

    And I dont think anyone is idiot enough to give 15 millions for free. If he offers 15 millions is because he will make WAY more than that. And you will not.

    But yes. 15 millions for nothing are too many millions. It's being hard to defend not to take them, so.. well... if it is being so hard.. then maybe it is because he should take the money.
     
  13. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    No it wouldn't. Wht makes it a career defining fight? What makes it different than the Ruiz fight?
     
  14. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    The second fight with ruiz was a career defining fight too. No difference.

    Not the same career if you avenge your loses or not. Specially versus guys as important boxingwise as Usyk is.

    I'm conviced that Joshuas career would be regarded completely different if he wins that fight, or not. Specially if he wins or loses by stoppage. Extremelly high impact fight legacy wise.
     
  15. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    I guess that is where we will disagree.
     
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