Sugar Ray Leonard circa 1986 v Floyd Mayweather 2007

I thought you were going to get me banned!

why am I not banned yet??? and why the switch of tactics to ad hominem attacks?

ad hominem attacks are a sign of desperation on the loser's part and a confirmation of my winning claims, none of which you can refute!

Since you CAN'T say Leonard wasn't unbeaten, you cant say he wasnt beat by Norris and you cant say he wasnt knocked out

Neither can you say his record is superior to Floyd's

Let's review the facts: (notice the absence of ad hominem attacks?)

Leonard success only when faced with opponents of Lalondish abilities (Howard, Lalonde, a beat up ex-hitman) and a washed up Hagler

Note that you dont see the names McCallum, Nunn, Kalambay?

those opponents would be much a stress test for Leonard

Ray Leonard did swimmingly until he faced an opponent of Mayweatherish caliber (Norris)

after which Leonard fought on until his final bout six years later when ray met up with Camacho who, was made in the image of Mayweather.

Note how Leonard always loses to opponents who approach the caliber of a Mayweather?

 

I'll answer only when you can tell me the reason Hagler retired if he was "far from done"

Since I asked first, you must be first to reply

 

Brady is the greatest b/c he has the most SB trophies. anything else, defeated one?

 

I don`t think Ray looke that great v Hagler and ran most of the fight he`d have to do more v Floyd, I think Mayweather would have too much for him, don`t know what weight this fight would be at in 1986 though, Ray fought at 160 v Hagler in 87, I didn`t think he looked great at that weight.

 

not only is Floyd undefeated, he surpasses Ray Leonard in every area imaginable. No matter how you slice it, everything Ray Leonard does, Floyd does better.

Floyd has so much money, that Ray Leonard's mansion would be the house in back of Floyd's yard.

and what happened to Louden? The big bluffer promised me he'd have me banned yet here I still am.

 

Look, just come and debate us all properly for once.

That’s why we’re all here.

I will gladly debate you if you can be serious for a second.

Give me a breakdown of the fight or something.

Look at my post count. I’m on here every day. I’ll gladly debate you if you give me something to debate.

Your act is just tired and repetitive.

You’ve been doing the same thing for a decade now, under 2 different accounts.


How are we supposed to debate you, when you’re typing things such as:

“Scratch Benitez off of Leonard’s resume because he was nothing”

?

What are we supposed to do with that?


You’re wasting everyone’s time.

You’re wasting your own time.

We’d all be able to have a much better debate if you were serious.

So either debate me or don’t quote me.

Hopefully, you’ll debate me.

Use the knowledge that you have in a more productive way.

You’ll get much more out of the threads.


Thanks.

 

I didn’t promise to have you banned.

I said that you’ll end up being banned if you carry on your tired, old act.

Just come and debate us instead of trolling.

 

I think Ray looked good against Hagler. Especially considering that it was at a new weight and he hadn’t fought in 3 years.

Apparently, he had mock fights beforehand.

He looked sharp.

Of course he’d have done more against Floyd. He wouldn’t have had any respect for his power. He simply had to use those tactics against Marvin.

What nobody has answered yet, is:

What would Floyd have done if Ray had’ve fought him aggressively?

 

you're full of hot air. take your Rolaids old man

Old and tired is just how you label it since you're always on the losing end of it

Ray was doing swimmingly vs those with Lalondish abilities ie; Kevin Howard, sloppy leftovers such as 1989 Hearns/Duran

but real life showed he did not fare so well against those with Mayweatherish abilities such as Terry Norris who mopped the floor with Leonard or Camacho who was made in the image of Floyd, and who knocked Leonard out

Floyd has fought well beyond the age of 40. You dont see Floyd getting his head bashed in

Everything Leonard did, Floyd did better

 

and in one of those mock fights, he was knocked out. Surprise surprise

vs the young lions, did not fare so well and so is no surprise it took another five years to take this fight

 

what do you want me to do, concede to you because Floyd didnt have the honor of getting flattened by Camacho?

Because he didnt have the honor of visiting the canvas courtesy of immortals like Kevin Howard and Don Lalonde?

for ducking Aaron Pryor?

for taking the Hagler fight 5 years late?

for giving Hearns & Duran rematches at the end of the decade?

for getting knocked out in a sparring match?

for failing to defend his portion of the middleweight title?

For ducking Michael Nunn?

come on, let's see some action!

Everything Ray Leonard did, Floyd does better