Sugar Ray Leonard circa 1986 v Floyd Mayweather 2007

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd DID not possess Norris’s style and attributes at the higher weights.

    He didn’t fight like Norris.

    Nor in any of the threads, would Floyd have been fighting the version of Ray who Norris did.

    Let than sink in, genius.

    Floyd didn’t have Norris’s power, confidence or aggression.

    He’d have had ZERO answer to an aggressive version of Ray Leonard.

    After a decade, it’s time to try and find some more examples.
     
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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Again, it’s based on the Norris fight.

    Always the Norris fight.

    Always.

    Thank the lord for the Terry Norris fight.

    The ONLY reason it’s based on the Norris fight, is because Norris beat Floyd and you can’t bear to admit that Ray could have beaten your hero.
     
  3. Loudon

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    How can Marvin have been shot, if YOU believe that Marvin won, yet Leonard went onto have success afterwards?

    Hagler didn’t drop Leonard because he went with the wrong tactics and showed him too much respect.

    He didn’t fight southpaw all night and press and pressure him.

    IF it was the consensus that Marvin was shot, then why do so many people think that he was robbed?

    He wasn’t shot.

    The definition of shot is Mike Tyson vs Danny Williams.

    Marvin Hagler was FADED, as was Ray himself.
     
  4. mark ant

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    Leonard had far more power.
     
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  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Norris didn`t fight anything like Floyd, he was bigger, a better finisher and a harder puncher and threw more combos, he also blocked shots instead of slipping or using the shoulder roll.
     
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  6. Loudon

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    Oh, I’m sorry Bert Sugar.

    Ray wasn’t shot against Macho at 40, but Marvin definitely was at 32.


    You say that he gets stopped against aggressive, hungry and young fighters.

    Fine.

    We’ll play it your way then.


    Was Floyd young, hungry and AGGRESSIVE?

    Ha!

    No!

    He wasn’t.

    He was a SAFETY FIRST, defensive fighter with hand issues up at the higher weights.

    He would NOT have FOUGHT Ray Leonard aggressively.

    Yet if Ray had fought Floyd aggressively, Floyd would have shelled up and gone into defence mode.

    I don’t even want you banned.

    I’ll just enjoy us all humiliating you instead.


    You tie yourself up without even knowing that you’ve done it.
     
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  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    It’s now getting brutal.

    We’re now beating him by using his own evidence against him.
     
  8. Mark Dunham

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    there's also Camacho KO 5 Leonard if a Norris butt kicking isnt enough for you

    there's also Quincy Taylor who stopped Ray Leonard in a sparring session on top of all that

    How do Ray Leonard fans sleep at night?
     
  9. Mark Dunham

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    yes, you're really killing me!

    36 - 3 - 1 is somehow much better than 50 - 0
     
  10. Loudon

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    I wonder if that tall guy was fast, young and aggressive.

    What was his name?

    Thomas somebody or other.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    And aggression, confidence and heart.
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Look at what you’ve been reduced to.

    If you’re happy to keep up this charade, then I’ll be happy to destroy you.

    I’ve got some free time on my hands.
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Brilliant.

    Then Sven Ottke obviously ranks higher than Roy Jones.
     
  14. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Leonard had more power and he was a winner but he wasnt the winner Floyd was

    It's like comparing Steve Young with Joe Montana

    Steve could play. Steve could win but just not on the same level as Joe
     
  15. Loudon

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    Ray had more power, more variation, more aggression and more confidence.

    Give us a breakdown on how Floyd would have beaten him, without just throwing meaningless stats around.


    I gave you the opportunity to debate properly.

    I was patient.

    I gave you 3 opportunities.

    Yet you declined.


    So you will now be destroyed by me and everyone else.