Your Thoughts On Michael Moorer - Heavyweight.

Not to detract too much from the overall topic, but I don’t know how great or particularly exciting Moorer was at light heavyweight.

He made a bunch of defenses of the WBO title, which was not widely recognized at the time. What’s his best win at 175? The only name of any note at all is Leslie Stewart, and that’s at a point where Leslie is in the midst of losing 5 out of 8 on his way out the door.

The WBO at that time couldn’t even find proper contenders willing to fight for that belt: MM’s final defense was against a 10-4-2 club fighter who had lost 3 of his last 6 and was fighting six-rounders three fights before his title shot. (He did win the Canadian 175-pound title — against an 11-4-1 guy — in his fight before Moorer but also lost to a 2-0 guy a couple of fights before that, lol).

At 175, Michael avoided the real contenders in the division and knocked out a bunch of fighters of little note to pad his record.

 

He was meh. Very little fire for all his skill. Very lucky to get Holyfield in the dilapidated condition he was in and still only barely won. One of the lesser heavy champs.

I also don't know if we can say he was a "great" light heavy. He never fought anybody of real note there.

 

I think it's pretty clear that Foreman had the fight under control. He wouldn't be able to outbox Moorer at this point of his career, but he landed shots and tired out Moorer.

 

All of which stem from STEROID ABUSE !!!

 

Go get your eyes checked then. Moorer was winning on all scorecards before the last round. All he had to do was stay away from Foreman and he'd win. And there was nothing Foreman could have done about it. But Moorer became too cocky and thought he's gonna show of and trade with Foreman. He was stupid and paid the price.

 

Not looking for an argument as I respect you as a poster but Foreman did not have that fight under control and was trailing. Moorer wasn't tired either. He simply got caught. This is not to take away from Formean who I have tons of respect for but it is the truth. Foreman was looking to land that right hand and he did because Moorer stopped moving to his right and instead moved to the left and into that straight right.

 

Looked amazing at LH then jumped to HW ?? Not so awesome at Hw I'm afraid . Lots of HW s beat him I think spoon Mercer at his best Bruno and plenty of others beat him I think

 

If Holyfield was really that sick he would have never been able to get back in the ring. That's just simple physiology.

 

According to this, he was wheeled into the ring on a gurney and propped up in the corner. Once they got all his IVs attached they rang the bell.

A bedside nurse attended to him between rounds.

 

He wasnt all time great but he was pretty far from the worst champion some fans insist. Nice skillset, good power, good heart. One of the best jabs. Some forget that he cameback and stopped the White Buffalo to regain a title.
Very good heavyweight. Beat Holyfield fair and square.

 

Fair enough, I think this is open to various interpretations. This fight reminds me Foreman "struggling" with a lot of smaller fighters that were outboxing him until he "landed lucky punch". Foreman was losing the fight, but he knew he wouldn't outbox Moorer and executed his plan.

 

You are the last person who should say things like that. Have you finally realized what guard Langford used in fights?

Yeah, all these fighters get "too cocky" and got caught by "lucky punch". I hear the same story about Conn vs Louis. The truth is that Foreman broke Moorer down and that was his gameplan all fight long. He didn't try to outbox Moorer, he tried to set up the right hand all fight long.

 

As far as becoming the linear heavyweight champion is concerned, I believe Moorer was fortunate to catch Holyfield when he suffered from an inured shoulder and had some sort of diagnosed heart problem. Even then it wasn’t an easy fight and of course we all know what happened in the rematch. But aside from that I think he had a pretty solid career at heavy with a record in that class of 30-4-1-18 and wins over several ranked guys and a two time belt holder. Not bad at all.

 

A garbage one.

You getting tired of it won't change the fact that it's true.

Well, cause that one is also true.

Foreman didn't break anyone down. Moorer knew that Foreman will try to land something big. Anyone with a brain knew that. Moorer's problem was that his ego got the better of him in that last round. He knew Foreman needed a KO to win, yet he was still dumb to stand a trade. I believe a part of him actually thought he'd be able to stand there and trade with Foreman.

 

While that is true (and Stewart was actually winning that fight) Moorer was a prospect at 175. I doubt any champion was chomping at the bit to fight him.
His power at 175 was real.

Problem is, is that the press built this narrative around Moorer that he was a stone-cold killer, and that he adored violence and slasher movies etc. Maybe he did. But they tried to make him sound like this vicious, bloodthirsty fighter, and then he'd mostly underperform in the fight itself.
Maybe fight differently to this 'killer' narrative they had built around him would be putting it better.
He did have that brawl with Cooper, but against Holy he was fairly reticent.

Moorer did fine. But he was never quite as good as the press wanted him to be