Was Magomed Madiev robbed against Felix Cash?

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  1. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing Aficionado Full Member

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    Cash was knocked down twice, beaten up, cut, and deducted a point. He was holding on for dear life during the later rounds, and was resorting to dirty tactics such as rabbit punches to survive.

    Was this a fair decision?

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    Well, if we give Madiev more than three rounds, we have to give him the fight on account of the point deduction (though I did think that was a harsh call). Did Madiev warrant as many as four rounds, though? The 95 scores for Cash seemed a touch wide. I'd need to rewatch.
     
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    Cash should've had a second point taken away for excessive holding despite the ref's numerous warnings
     
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    No, I thought Cash dominated majority of the fight.

    I gave Madiev rounds 1, 2, & 12, including the two KD and a 10 - 7 round in the 10th.

    I thought cash could have been deducted another point for rabbit punches, but could have also potentially won round 1.

    I think a draw is the best you can argue for Madiev.

    94-93 Cash on my card.
     
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    Cash won rounds 3-9.
     
  6. tee_birch

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    I think Cash did enough really. Hard to give Madiev too many rounds.
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Other than the rounds he scored KDs Madiev lost every round

    Madiev's low KO% is a bit deceptive. He can crack a bit and he's got a good left hook

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    Bit careless of Cash getting caught with the left hook that dropped him in round 2 given that
     
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    The KD reminded me a bit of the first KD in the Hatton/Pacquiao fight
     
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    Yeah it was similar
     
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  10. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    No Cash outboxed him
     
  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I feel sorry for Cash he seems like a nice guy and this past year has been a very difficult one for him



    “It’s been a tough year,” said super-middleweight contender Felix Cash with one of the early understatements of 2022.

    Cash had shone with an impressive win against Denzel Bentley in 2021 and big things were expected. But a break up with his partner and a tragic car crash that killed four cousins meant he did not box again.

    He’s out this weekend, against 15-0-2 Russian Magomed Madiev on the Danny Jacobs-John Ryder bill at the Alexandra Palace and he’s keen to move towards world title contention while making up for lost time.

    “Splitting up with her and not being able to see the kids for a while, there was a lot of things going on and my head wasn’t right for boxing,” Cash admitted. “You need to be 100 per cent for boxing and I wasn’t in the right headspace. I was still training… I was still coming to the gym but there was a lot going on in my head. Then I was meant to come back in November and that [the car crash] happened so it’s been a very difficult year, but it’s part of life. Life’s difficult in general. You’ve got to stay strong and push on.”

    He pushes on this weekend and he’s ready to impress against, as he did so with the one-sided Bentley win.

    “Honestly, I can’t wait now,” Cash, 14-0, continued. “It’s around the corner and I can’t wait to get in there and do some damage. He [Madiev]’s a very good fighter. He’s tough, strong and he’s got a very good ranking with the WBA, so he’s definitely no pushover. It’s going to be a tough fight.”

    During Cash’s time away from the ring, his coach Tony Sims hosted some long question and answer session with followers on social media. Often, he was inundated with queries about Cash. Felix, trying to get his mindset right, was buoyed by seeing people take an interest in him.

    “It was great, it’s great people want to see me,” Cash added. “I believe I am an exciting fighter, I’m not boring, so it was good for me to see that, it gave me a bit more encouragement. It made me excited to get in the ring as soon as possible. I had a few things going on that were holding me back a bit but I’m back now and I can’t wait for Saturday night.”

    He hopes now to kick on from where he left off against Bentley. Many thought that would be his springboard to big things last year. He did, too.

    “I did,” Cash said. “There was a lot of talk about what was next and everyone was talking about it but sometimes things don’t work out as planned. I should have really fought another two times last year but it is what it is. It’s not long now before I’m back in between those ropes and I’m ready to put a show on.”

    https://www.ringtv.com/634682-felix...ear-behind-him-against-madiev-eyes-eubank-jr/

    He got very emotional here

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    Even if I went out of my way looking for a round to give Madiev aside from the 2nd and the 10th, doing a frame by frame analysis. I doubt I could find one. So no, not this time. The scoring was on point for a change.
     
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    The Irish Gypsy showed heart last night, deserved the win after coming through some tough rounds.
     
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    I was watching this but not scoring it, and the last round I was scratching my head thinking "did Madiev win more than 2 rounds?" Kind of reminded me of the scoring of Jirov-Mesi where one guy wins a few rounds real big and scores knockdowns, but he was clearly outpointed in the majority of rounds.
     
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    Same story with me. My general impression was that Cash had enough good rounds to have won the fight notwithstanding the knockdowns and point deduction, but that the 95's were a smidge wide. So perhaps 94–93 is the truest score. I'll get around to rewatching/scoring this week.
     
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