THE GLOVES ARE OFF | Amir Khan vs Kell Brook

That's just how Kell speaks.

Yeah, it's a long way past its sell-by date, but there's no reason for this fight not to be sanctioned. Both guys are shopworn, but neither is at a stage where we should be fearful for them given they're facing each other and not some hungry prime gun (though, that's probably what awaits the winner, unless he's wise enough to ride into the sunset with his bragging rights).

If I have a concern, it's the weight and how Brook will handle it.

 

Brook is emotional and taking it personally, Khan is just having fun with it

Mentally at least, it’s obvious one fighter has a clear edge

 

To me it indicates that Khan agreed to a higher weight then changed his tune, particularly as it seems Brook isn't allowed to talk about it

 

To me, Khan is saying things that are obvious bull****, think he wouldn't be overly arsed if he lost

 

Probably a hydration clause in there somewhere.

Kell has been a career 147lbs fighter. His last fight was at 147lbs.

However he has struggled for YEARS to make weight and only stayed there because he chased the Khan fight. Meanwhile Khan was out in America making as much $$$ as he could and chasing big names while Kell was defending his WORLD TITLE against Frankie Gavin and YoYo Dan

Kell ruined his own career because of his lack of natural intelligence, bad management and for being obsessed with a grudge match and rivalry with a naturally smaller fighter

 

I thought Khan had him in the palm of his hand when the teasers were released. After watching the full thing, it occurred to me that even a seasoned, cynical, long-time fight degenerate can be seduced by Sky's manipulative editing from time to time.

Amir has gotten the better in the pre-fight war of quips and wits, but not to the extent that it should make a difference. His confident air is striking and necessary, but being full of self-belief didn't previously keep him from being knocked silly by a counterpuncher with keen timing and a sweet money shot. One might argue that, this time, he's the one with the emotional upper hand, but he's also historically established as by far the dumber man in the ring, a predictable pattern fighter who relies on an athleticism that has surely declined and whose hamartia is fighters with an equal (or greater) physical stature and the ability to time him with a spiteful dig. Kell isn't much of a public speaker, but he is a patient, smart boxer by nature, I'd be highly surprised if he abandons that. The talk of a 'car park brawl' is just that. He also looked very sharp last time out, up until Crawford hurt him. A lot has been read into that shot, but it's not one that I believe Khan has the chops to replicate, a sneaky jab-cum-hook from around the corner thrown by a guy possessed of genuine punching power (funnily enough, the kind of shot Kell has made a career of). 149 is still a concern, but he should have enough there to get the job done.

Khan will need his customary blazing fast start, but I'm not even sure that's a given, as Kell's jab could offset him early.

This is one point I do agree with you on, friend.

He wants the added boost to his retirement fund and he no longer has any international relevance to lose by falling to Brook, so why not go in with brass balls on show? As he pointed out in The Gloves Are Off, he's been bashed up before, he's not scared of it, it's not his first rodeo. His cocksureness is a confidence trick, and it can't hurt his chances, because I don't think he's truly overlooking Kell and expecting things all his own way.

He doesn't want to lose the fight, but I don't think he'd have any problem living with it. Brook would likely take it harder.

He was chasing a world title just as much, which itself was a drawn-out process for one reason and another (the Alexander farce delayed his coronation by well over a year). Kell became a titlist — entering the P4P conversation and assuming the position of The Ring's #1 welterweight after Mayweather's retirement — only a couple years prior to jumping to 160 to challenge Golovkin. When he did finally snatch the IBF, he expressed interest in a fight with Thurman, but Keith was reluctant to go where 20,000 butts could be put in seats for a PPV event and Cheap Eddie wasn't about to make a significant enough investment to lure him over. It wasn't just Khan, none of the notables at 147 wanted to fight the guy, outside of a hungry, largely unproven up-and-comer called Errol Spence who earned a mandatory challenger's berth and got Brook coming off the inevitable defeat to Golovkin (given Spence's bold early moves in travelling overseas to face a quality titlist, something Haymon's blue-chip guys never do, his immediate submission to the PBC formula of fighting twice a year at best and taking any number of uninspiring defences in between significant assignments makes for a sad sidenote).

Brook is a pure welterweight. He struggled with the limit because his lack of discipline between fights began to catch up to him. That's on him, of course, but it's misleading to imply that he should have been boxing at 154 circa 2014–2017 and was only hanging around for Khan. It'd been a long road to that title, the Brook camp knew that welter was where their guy should be boxing his peak years and that he had business to attend to at that weight before eventually moving up in search of accomplishments in a second division — they only took the Golovkin fight out of desperation for a career-defining, star-making bout, which was proving elusive in his own division. Then, after the physical and psychological toll was took, he went back down. Eventually, a fighter will naturally come to find his career division too tight a squeeze, but Kell was having difficulties with the welter limit much sooner than he otherwise would've if he'd been keeping his walk-around weight down and not indulging himself so freely. Brook mismanaged his lifestyle and his handlers did the rest.

 

If there was in fight where I wish both guys glass shatter at the same time and they both lose.. This is the one.. Screw these guys especially Amir Khan who didn’t wanna fight Kell Brook at any other time until now..

And for the record despite it being over marinated at least Floyd and Manny were still the clear #1 and #2 guys in the division and still elite. This is a clear money grab..

 

Khan looks absolutely full of himself..Kell looked strung out...he's ****in butchering himself to make that weight and he knows it ...it's quite easy to say brook made 147 more recently than khan but he also got banged out early doors...and this is a fighter whose taken shots of Spence and ggg.

He cannot make that weight...think he'd hoping he can ride out the early storm from khan and clip him..which is why he's made the concessions he has.

I can't help but feel khan's gonna stop him and fairly early.... And I hate to say it cos I like brook alot more.

Give khan one thing though..he's ****in funny lol

 

Kell would have swept him aside in his prime

 

And even the Khan guys know this would have been the very likely outcome. Least when they're alone with themselves.

Khan has a significant chance now because of the compound of Brook's shopwear and a difficult cut to 149.

 

If brook isn’t completely shot to bits and has one last big fight in him then he should be able to counter khan and put him on wibbly wobbly street. Otherwise brook could get stopped by a jab or just swarmed by khan and stopped by the ref.


Let’s hope we get a good fight with lots of drama that goes almost the full 12 rounds. If brook fails to make weight this could be a quick and easy night for khan

 

[url]ESPN's US site has this one scheduled for ten[/url], whereas [url]the fight schedule on another boxing website has it scheduled for twelve[/url].

You'd assume ESPN would have the correct information, given that ESPN+ is carrying this fight in the States, but perhaps not.

Anyone know for sure?

 

boxrec has it down as a 12 rounder

 

Not sure why there are so many Brook might not make weight theories knocking about. Not a single time in his career has Brook failed to make weight at the first time of asking, and that includes check weights and rehydrations- and none of those carried financial penalties and nor to my knowledge (unlike Khan), has had to whip his boxers off to make it. And he has 2lbs extra to play with than his last fight. Trust me, Brook will be on weight.

 

Pretty sure Jonny Nelson asked them does this fight go the 12 rounds and there was no mention of it being a 10 rounder!?