Bivol vs Clenelo May 7th reportedly

These kinds of statements have become popularized on this forum, to label the Floyd match a "complete domination" is flat earth level mainstream contrarian as a boxing fan. I know you and others like to live in this pretend world where Floyd dominated him and GGG beat him, but I just want to make it clear how lost you are as a boxing interpreter to see these matches so totally different than they were.

I hate to quote Paulie Malignaggi as he's become one of the most annoying boxing analysis in the business, and his attempt to make nice with Canelo by interviewing him before the Plant match was rather surprising. After all the trash Paulie spewed about Canelo, which was eerily similar to the kinds of drivel that can be found on here, to then pretend to befriend Canelo with that interview was very eye opening. You can tell Paulie was very nervous when he approached Canelo, Paulie was talking super fast, even more fast and erratic than he usually is than he normal does. You could tell Paulie had fear in his eyes and regretted talking all that nonsense about Canelo before. Boxing fans like to talk all kind of ish against Canelo, but Paulie would never say any of that to Canelo's face because he knows Canelo would send him into the next stratosphere if Paulie ever said something like that to his face.

You would be just as nervous as Paulie was if you and to interview Canelo after making misleading statements about how dominant Floyd Canelo was. But back to quoting Paulie, the one thing he said that was pretty slick and spot on was when somebody had wildly a different view of a match than he did. He would say that it's too bad that you missed a great fight. To see Floyd Canelo as a Floyd domination, you clearly "missed a great fight" there, to see that as one-sided, when we all know how close that was, you are showing yourself to be highly dishonest as a fan about what happened there, or in GGG for that matter. To even complain about those GGG decisions, either of them, is completely mad. That's not to say you can't argue GGG won or disagreed with the verdict, but the picture you are trying to paint with these decisions a fatal flaw when evaluating what happened there.

You're not giving Canelo credit for what happened in those fights. Essentially Canelo is so good and did so well in each of those matches, he's created a false equivalency in your mind that you have been programmed to accept that he didn't do what he actually did in those fights, and that's so far from reality and what actually happened in these close and hard to score matches, what I don't get is how boxing fans like you can be so stupid and so invested in a phony narrative designed to disparage Canelo and try and take away his greatness as a fighter. I just want to be clear that I think your whole Canelo "agenda" that he didn't fight Floyd to a razor close decision or that he didn't beat GGG, or him beating GGG isn't reasonable, or that he shouldn't have got the decisin vs Trout or Lara, you are literally taking stances on these matches that are a vast depature from what actually occurred.

And no matter how popularized such a false view is on this forum, I just want you to understand that you're objectively wrong on every level as it pertains to Canelo and his 5 closest biggest matches, and outside of the Canelo detracting bubble of BF24, such ideas are mocked and not taken seriously in actual boxing circles.

Please get help, revaluate your crazy view of these matches, and apoligize for trying to perpetuate phony narratives designed to deny Canelo the greatness he already achieved. Canelo beating GGG was one of the crowning moments of the 21st century, if anyone was robbed it was Cnaelo in that first match where he clearly outboxed and showed far better ring IQ against the G man. To continue to live in your fantasy world, and you are living in a fantasy world as it pertains to each of those 5 matches, and it's not even close. And you might say "well you're in the minority on ths one" well on this forum maybe but not in the real world with people who comprehend boxing without agendas against certain fighters for made up reasons that don't pertain to actual boxing.

You saying that shows that you don't comprehend boxing. You don't understand how boxing works to make such an idiotic claim about how Canelo wins decisons. Every decisoin he's won he's earned it, he outperformed every opponent he's ever been in with with the exception of Mayweather, and even that was much closer than pretty much anyone claims it was. The level of delusion as it pertains to Canelo is unlike anything we've ever seen in boxing.

 

Very well said apart from about the Mayweather fight where Floyd literally schooled him and made it look easy!

 

Look, you're way closer to reality than northpaw. You see 80% of those 5 matches correct, that's a B-. So you're doing pretty well, but you still have that 20% Mayweather afixtion going on thinking he domnated Canelo. On a 5 question multiple choice test, you got 80% of the questions right. That's far better than most of this forum, but you still got one of those wrong. Floyd did perform well but most rounds were close to a round by round basis. And it's important you understand this and don't get sucked into the Floyd idol worship, Canelo detracting vortex. Just understand what happened there and stop playing pertend that Floyd did anything major to Canelo besides out jab him. Canelo took some hard shots but showed an iron chin and kept walking Floyd down showed him how to fight on the ropes and hit Floyd with a 12 punch combo. Don't get sucked into bad boxing opinions to try and be popular. It's much more fun and rewarding to know what happened instead of trying to agree with other delusional poster to try and be more popular.

 

Didn't read lol....
Just a couple of pointers for you Shadow you flat earth canelo gimpoid.
Floyd DID school and outclass Canelo.
GGG did beat Canelo twice and was robbed twice although the second fight was closer.
No amount of your fallacy arguements can work especially as you've managed to include 4-5 just in this one post not including your "sunken cost" fallacy as a framing.
I think you might want to get your fellow "special" friends to help you out here. before you get another complete tooling.

 

The irony is you're the flat earther here with those kinds of views. You're the one with opinions outside of the mainstream boxing norm of judges decsions and generally agreed media understanding of what happened there.

The exception to that is the Mayweather match which much in the media perpetuated the idea that Floyd dominated, which was a flat earth style contradiction in itself to the mainstream judges who scored it close.

 

Yeah..but bivols crap ..or lazy lol

Edit -Actually bit of an unfair assessment....I'll re assess....he's clearly skilled but fights either to his opponents level...or ...can't be arsed to get out of 1st gear...almost like he just does what he has to do...he also doesn't hit very hard....don't see canelo having any problems in this one

 

Not at all by your previous statements claiming that the mainstream media lies all the time....
Many polls have been done on here regarding the GGG fights with the majority thinking he was robbed so no I'm not a "flat Earther" regarding that apsect at all I'm in the majority.
In the very next paragraph you then claim that the media were all on crack when it came to the Floyd fight....
Do you understand the concept of internal consistancy?
It's when you don't chop and change principles and beliefs when it suits you.....
Floyd did school Canelo in one of his easier fights considering the hype beforehand...

 

Yes you are, you're not comprehending the analogy. NASA is like the boxing commisions, they hire "judges" to tell us what happened in fights, like NASA hires spokesmen like Neil Degrasse Tyson to tell you the world is a globe. And a group of people, like you, have decided that the boxing establishment, the NASA of boxing, who appoints judges to score matches, is wrong, and are being a contrarian to the boxing mainstream. This forum's popularized view of how Canelo didn't win all of his fights, or got dominated by Mayweather, is like the flat earthers who disagree with NASA's view of the world. "Space" for flat earthers is like a decision being a "robbery". They know that space is fake just like a winner of a match who they disagree with is fake because they think that's fake.

"No, the judges were wrong. We can see what really happened, that Canelo didn't win."
"No, the globe is wrong. We can see what it really is, the earth is flat."

Canelo winning on the official judges cards to you is NASA propaganda to flat eathers, like the moon missions.

You say the Canelo GGG results were faked, that the judges had it wrong, you say that Canelo's fights are fixed and scripted, like the moon mssions being filmed in a studio, Canelo winning to you is like the curve of the earth that isn't real but the judges tell you it was real.

See how you're the flat earthers here.

 

False equivalence fallacy.

AGAIN......multiple times in one post. jesus wept...

 

Hmmm I'd love to say "Lots of well reasoned stuff" ...seek help Shadow...

 

Bivol can't beat Canelo. Either he will take a dive, or he will get tired after round 6 and Canelo will knock him out.

Canelo is the greatest money maker in this era, they will not allow him to lose to a Russian boxer.

If Canelo is protected, everybody is a winner. I'm sure boxers waiting in line to fight Canelo are praying that Canelo won't lose. They are paid around $5-6M just to lose to him.

Canelo will not lose to any other boxer for at least 3 more years, and everybody will be rich.

 

You're not really trying to get it. Try harder.

 

You wrote all this for it to be completely ignored. I ain't reading this ****. From the top, you said that I've provided a "popularized" statement. I don't personally give a **** what anyone else sees when I know and understand the criteria of judging fights, I ain't new to this. I know what I saw in each fight. Everything you said after your beginning salvo is suspect because you approached not to genuinely have a discourse but disrespect.

And finally if you can't get your point across more succinctly, please don't respond to me. I can tell your point is **** because you're trying to spew your opinion.

 

I don’t and let me tell you something I am older boy steeped in the sweet science. It’s no disrespect to say Floyd schooled Canelo because he did. The big problem Canelo had is that everything he is good at Floyd was better at. Marquez had the same problem. 80% is not bad but I am a 97% Emeritus Professor in boxing.