Muhammad Ali Vs George Foreman 2

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  1. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman didn't have to do anything. Unlike Ali, his level did not decrease, he was roughly still the same boxer.
    And yes, Lyle almost had him, but Ali is no Lyle to be able to trade blow for blow.
    Young also was younger than Ali and had the legs to stay away from Foreman the whole night. Ali couldn't even do that in 74, that's why he had to resort to laying on the ropes until Foreman gassed out.
    So what is Ali gonna resort to on 76, given that Foreman won't be dumb to fall for the same trick again ?!?
     
  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    Foreman just isn't good enough. I can't be bothered swimming these waters every single week...
     
  3. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nobody said he is. Prime vs prime, Ali clearly has the stylistic edge and would win every single time.
    But an old Ali, who cannot trick Foreman. No way.
     
  4. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    "Even" old George struggled with movers? He was in hid mid 40's then & heavy with a completely different style.
    Ali was surprised at how fast Foreman moved-on a soft ring bad for movers.

    You cannot use an ancient Foreman who was built very differently & use this as an example of a man who retired at 28 & was great at cutting off the ring.
     
  5. Kosst Amojan

    Kosst Amojan Active Member banned Full Member

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    Jup that it is logical very reasonable and not so biased as these by Ali-fanboys.
     
  6. Kosst Amojan

    Kosst Amojan Active Member banned Full Member

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    I had Foreman winning against Schulz, because he landed the harder and more clear punches. But it was my second boxing boxing fight I watched (apart of Bud Spencer movies like The Bomber).
     
  7. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    Of course, I also know the story of a glass of water.
    By not watching Muhammad Ali Vs George Foreman 2 fight, boxing fans were denied; as well as not watching the fights:
    Lewis - Bowe
    Tyson - Bowe
    Klitschko brothers - Valuev
    AJ - Tyson Fury
    AJ - Wilder... and many, many more.
     
  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Saddler and Ali were practically peas and carrots in Zaire.
     
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  9. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Okay. All of the referees and judges were bought off then? Then it stands to reason that they could be bought again in a Foreman fight, and then I'm back to an Ali win by decision. Are we having fun yet? :lol:
     
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  10. ThatOne

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    You can go to boxrec and see UPI and AP scoring for the Norton and Shavers fights. For the Norton fight UPI had it 8-7 Norton and AP had it 9-6 Ali. For the Shavers fight UPI had it 8-6-1 Ali and AP had it 10 -5 Ali. I would note they had reporters at ringside. As to Ali quitting he is on the record as saying I would never let Joe say I quit plus he was dominating him badly in the thirteenth and fourteenth round. It was the first time in fourty one rounds he had Joe legitimately backing up. I would add Harold Lederman was one of the judges for the Norton fight. He stood by that decision until the day he died
     
  11. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, they were simply favoring the cash cow. Or they were simply dumb.
     
  12. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shavers clearly won the fight with Ali, I watched it again a few days ago.
     
  13. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You should bring that to the attention of boxrec and have them add your scorecard to their synopsis of the fight.
     
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  14. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why did UPI and AP score the fights the way they did?
     
  15. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Watch the video yourself and you will see I am right. I've even put up my scorecards on a thread regarding this fight.