Mike Tyson ranks higher than Joe Frazier

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  1. ZoDoX

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    They were champions now its problem to fight champions?
     
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    Buster Douglas have prime tyson win who have other that nobody
     
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    In 1995 Bruce Seldon and Tony tucker fought for the vacant WBA title. Tucker was washed up and Seldon was dubiously ranked higher than men who had convincingly beat him. Neither should have been to top combatants for a title but Don King arranged for this to happen. Why ? To be easy picking for Tyson.
     
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    Dude bruno was real Champ anyway they didn't even know that Tyson would fight Seldon
     
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    That's horse****, Magoo. Foreman was mandated to fight Tucker, but Foreman openly ducked Tucker and dropped his belt. Tucker then fought Seldon and lost, probably because Seldon had one of the fastest jabs in heavyweight history.
     
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    2-2? Old Holmes and who, Spinks? Not comparable to a young Holmes and the latter mostly a LHW who didn’t fight for nearly a year with his only HW fights against Holmes and Cooney.

    Frazier would still be ranked highly without FOTC win.
     
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    Tucker never should have been a #1. He hadn’t beaten anyone big in literally YEARS to warrant being anywhere near a top 3 rating. Seldon was their #2 and didn’t even belong in the top 10. And fastest jab in history ??? Pffft…
     
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    McCall revealed that once he beat Lewis Don King tried to set it up so that Tyson once out of prison would have an easy path to the WBC belt. This is supported by how McCall said he was set up to be distracted with his family present during training and told to fight differently against Bruno which forced him to play aggressive for the last two rounds which was too late.
     
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    To add a little spice to this conversation Mike is 2-3 against his fellow IBHOF members but Joe is 1-4 against his fellow IBHOF members.
     
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    I'd start recounting Mike's win-loss against ATGs. Holy and Lewis beat him 3 out of 3 fights.

    In fact, the only ATGs Mike beat were a 38 year old Holmes and a light heavyweight who was scared to death.

    Nothing against Mike, a top ten ATG (easily).
     
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    Tyson was fighting and LHW interesting okay since you use old excuses tyson vs lewis (washed doesn’t count tyson holyfield (Holyfield should be DQ also so NC) 1st fight? Holyfield should be DQ for headbutts i count Foster frazier and foreman they are only ATGs joe fought
     
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    We have yet another Mike Tyson sycophant. Just what this board needs.
     
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    Real champ ? As In THE champ? Gimme a break. He took an alpha strap off of Oliver McCall who’s career had been going down hill since manny steward left him and only had that strap because he pulled a fluke on Lewis. Frank Bruno was a past prime ex-contender from the 80s who Tyson had already destroyed years earlier. King was delighted when Bruno got his hands on that belt because it meant an easy title for Tyson as was Seldon with the WBA.
     
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    A ali win? Ali schooled him later proved that that was fluke spinks LHW? 215 lbs my boy lineal undefeated heavyweight champion destroyed in 91
     
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    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't pay attention to that guy, my friend. Another person with terrible communication skills and a home in Mike's undies.
     
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