Is Whyte the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd best Fury fought?

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  1. Ty is That Guy

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    Fury's fans will say that Wallin is better than Whyte just to make their fraud chumpion look good. So it's pointless to even bother with them. But most of them cannot even name 5 good names on Fury's resume
     
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  2. themaster999

    themaster999 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whytes no where near Wlad level, theres a massive gap between them.

    Even on Dusseldorf night, if you want to believe Wlad was suffering from something or other, he would have dealt with Whyte with ease.

    For Fury/Whyte, read Fury/Chisora 2, it will be the same.
     
  3. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Hilarious post. So bad, in so many ways.

    Joshua's "résumé" (lol) is so shallow.

    Beat Dillian Whyte who was green, out of shape and injured, after doing a funny dance, in England.
    Bought the belt off Charles Martin, who only had it via default, and wouldn't have got near it had Fury not been forced to vacate - "fought" him (transacted) in England.
    Defends the belt against some of the most pathetic opposition imaginable in Breazeale and Molina, on PPV, in England.
    Best win comes after a life and death contest over Fury's sloppy seconds, Klitschko, coming off a loss and 18 months inactivity, again in England.
    Was meant to face Pudding Pulev, but had to face.... Carlos Takam. Shockingly bad opponent who even managed to get sparked against Dereck Chisora, who has never beaten anybody decent in his entire career. Again, in England.
    Faces Paint Dry Parker in one of the biggest skidmarks in recent history. A horrendous snoozefest with a dodgy MR referee. In England, of course.
    Next is old man Povetkin, who has never been a champion in his overrated career. Had previously been dropped by.... David Price, a British level plumber. In England.
    Andy Rice Pudding Jr then absolutely batters Joshua in the USA. This is a boxer who couldn't even wobble the likes of a shot to pieces Liakhovich or Kevin Johnson. An enormous skidmark on Joshua's record that can never be expunged.
    Beats Rice Pudding Jr in Saudi in a bout where Rice Pudding Jr nearly succumbed to cardiac arrest due to his increased levels of obesity.
    Pudding Pulev, an ancient old man whose best wins are Hughie Fury and Dereck Chisora. Pulev was battered by Klitschko 7 years prior and a useless opponent. In England.
    Joshua is then schooled and battered by Oleksandr Usyk in a bout which saw him cry at the end in his corner. In England.

    You are having a serious laugh if you think that Joshua's laughable record (or 'résumé' lol) matches up to Fury's. No amount of wins over "top 10" no-hopers can compensate for a loss against a gatekeeper, at best, in Rice Pudding Jr and an absolute battering vs who most Joshua fanboys described as a "small, old, featherfisted cruiserweight".
     
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  4. Serge

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    You're only as good as The Gypsy King allows you to be

    He doesn't just captain his ship

    He captains all the ships that venture into his waters

    You might think you're behind the helm but your ship always moves in the direction and speed he wants it to.
     
  5. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I was going to respond until I read "Ortiz struggled with Dave Allen". And that's my cue to block you.
     
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  6. Robney

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    I think right now it's old Wlad, gap, Wilder, gap, Chisora, and then either Cunningham or Wallin.
    Obviously Whyte would be the #3 in that list.
     
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  7. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I disagree on one point: a diversity of opponents is a good thing as it shows you can deal with a wide variety of opponents. Beating Wilder 3 times is much better than beating Wilder, Ruiz and Parker but is it better than beating say, Wilder, Ortiz and Joyce? It could be argued that Fury had Wilder's number but other anthropometric types and styles of a similarly high level may be more likely to beat him. Another way of putting it for the nostalgists is: is it better to beat Ali 3 times or to beat Ali, Frazier and Foreman? Most would probably say the latter.

    Wilder is a special case though because he's a hellacious puncher with great range, speed, toughness and championship experience. It's not like having a stylistic advantage over a light punching blown up cruiser because if you can outbox that type of opponent, you almost certainly have his number every time. Wilder is always just a punch away and he has the physical and athletic attributes to land.
     
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  8. Vegan Beast

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    He ducked him, but he wasn't obligated to fight him until he stupidly agreed to do so.

    Wallin was an unnecessary risk. Whyte has beaten more proven opposition than Wallin. I don't know how good Wallin is, but his best victory is Breazeale who was out of the ring for like 2 years.

    Wallin recently fought an absolute nobody in Kamil Sokołowski.

    WK would beat Whyte and so would Wilder, but I'd wager whyte against anyone else Fury has fought.
     
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  9. Furious

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    Agree on Wallin - difficult to say how good he is off the Fury performance. Sample size is too small and it may have just been a bit of a fluke against a below par Fury.

    I think Whyte may have found Cunningham awkward, as Fury did. I also think the Chisora that Fury fought is probably better than the 2016 and 2018 versions.
     
  10. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Didn't read lol.
    Still better than Fury's or Wilder's resume. You just saying Fury's is better does not makke it so you fanboy mongoloid.
     
  11. Safin

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    The near-fifty-year-old man excrement76 admits defeat. :bananaride

    These fanboys will say anything to try to get one up. Ortiz battered Dave Allen.
     
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  12. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you 10 years old? I merely dismissed your argument as nonsense.
    I'm a Fury fan but unlike you not a knob gobbling spastic fanboy...do you see the difference?
    Fury's resume to this point is weak. If he beats AJ. Usyk and Whyte then he has a valid claim to being the best in his era. If he retired today the only decent wins are Vlad and Wilder who hasn't fought anyone else and is therefore untested.
    Being a fanboy when your a grown adult is pathetic it''s something little girls do when they have a crush on a boy band...so your basically telling me that you haven't left puberty yet..
     
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  13. UndergroundBoxing

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    You really asking if Whyte is better than the unified long-reigning heavyweight champion of the world? He’s not even in the same league as Wladimir Klitschko lol. May be on par with Wilder but Wilder is more dangerous.
     
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  14. Vegan Beast

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    LOL you're laughing at "rice pudding JR" for being fat yet Fury is usually fat as **** as well.

    I agree that Fury has the better wins. But I think Joshua's resume is more stacked.

    At the end of the day this debate has been done to death. It all depends on how you value the opposition.

    You are obviously clearly biased against Joshua and people like you will always put down everything he does and never give him any credit. There's literally no point in debating you. Even if AJ beats Usyk in the rematch, you'll probably just point out that Usyk is past his best and if he fought Usyk "in his prime" it would be different.

    Joshua and Fury's best win is arguably WK, who was past his best against both.

    Besides WK, Fury hasn't fought anyone close to Joshua's level of opposition besides Wilder.

    And no, I don't think you can count fighting the same fighter numerous times over the same as beating different opposition. Otherwise Fury could fight wilder another 3-4 times and just saying "omfg look at the amount of top 10 wins on my resume lol".

    Joshua -

    WK
    Povetkin
    Ruiz
    Whyte
    Parker

    Fury

    WK
    Wilder

    This is all the fighters that either have fought that could really be considered top 10 opposition.

    You could nit pick at Joshua's opponents, sure, but you could also nitpick at Fury's. If you're going to say anything about Wlad, it effects both fighters, 39 year old Wlad or 41 year old Wlad it's both Wlad well outside his prime.

    And also Fury quit before the WK rematch that was scheduled so that could arguably be considered a duck.

    Wilder - Who has he beat in his career? Ortiz. That is the only remotely impressive win, but we're going purely off based on his performance against Wilder, not his own resume, which is ****ing terrible.

    TL;DR -

    1. People like you will never give AJ any credit regardless of what he does. So I don't know why I waste my time debating you, it's probably only for the benefit of others.

    2. You could nit pick at the resume of Fury, Joshua, Wilder, Whyte etc. Fury's wins are at best equivalent to Joshua's, except Joshua has fought more top level opponents and Fury has only fought 2 top level opponents, and calling Wilder a top level opponent is basically determined by his losing performances against Fury, unless you consider beating Ortiz proof of anything.
     
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  15. Safin

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    No response to Joshua's weak record (or 'résumé' lol). A lot of cognitive dissonance on display here. You surely shouldn't be calling anyone a "spastic" when your grasp of English is worse than most six year old children. Here's a reminder of what you were unable to respond to (because it pathetically hurts you too much - genuinely).

    Beat Dillian Whyte who was green, out of shape and injured, after doing a funny dance, in England.
    Bought the belt off Charles Martin, who only had it via default, and wouldn't have got near it had Fury not been forced to vacate - "fought" him (transacted) in England.
    Defends the belt against some of the most pathetic opposition imaginable in Breazeale and Molina, on PPV, in England.
    Best win comes after a life and death contest over Fury's sloppy seconds, Klitschko, coming off a loss and 18 months inactivity, again in England.
    Was meant to face Pudding Pulev, but had to face.... Carlos Takam. Shockingly bad opponent who even managed to get sparked against Dereck Chisora, who has never beaten anybody decent in his entire career. Again, in England.
    Faces Paint Dry Parker in one of the biggest skidmarks in recent history. A horrendous snoozefest with a dodgy MR referee. In England, of course.
    Next is old man Povetkin, who has never been a champion in his overrated career. Had previously been dropped by.... David Price, a British level plumber. In England.
    Andy Rice Pudding Jr then absolutely batters Joshua in the USA. This is a boxer who couldn't even wobble the likes of a shot to pieces Liakhovich or Kevin Johnson. An enormous skidmark on Joshua's record that can never be expunged.
    Beats Rice Pudding Jr in Saudi in a bout where Rice Pudding Jr nearly succumbed to cardiac arrest due to his increased levels of obesity.
    Pudding Pulev, an ancient old man whose best wins are Hughie Fury and Dereck Chisora. Pulev was battered by Klitschko 7 years prior and a useless opponent. In England.
    Joshua is then schooled and battered by Oleksandr Usyk in a bout which saw him cry at the end in his corner. In England.

    You are having a serious laugh if you think that Joshua's laughable record (or 'résumé' lol) matches up to Fury's. No amount of wins over "top 10" no-hopers can compensate for a loss against a gatekeeper, at best, in Rice Pudding Jr and an absolute battering vs who most Joshua fanboys described as a "small, old, featherfisted cruiserweight".