Which champions did Louis's reign prevent?

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Without Louis, who would have been king in the later 30s and 40s?

    And why?
     
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  2. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Schmeling for a second time.
     
  3. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Billy Conn (definitely)

    Lou Nova (maybe)

    Jersey Joe Walcott (definitely)
     
  4. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Without Louis Max Schmeling would have regained the title by beating Braddock and become the first man to win the title twice.
     
  5. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, Schmeling would beat Braddock and become the first two time HW champion. He'd probably make a few defenses and lose around 1940, impossible to say against whom.

    I guess Conn vs Nova would be the fight of the early 1940s, though someone like Godoy could beat them both. Buddy Baer would have a chance to upset a champion as well.

    Assuming that Conn would stay the champion after the war, Walcott should be able to beat past-prime Conn. Then he loses to Charles.
     
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  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    I wonder what would’ve transpired if Louis never existed a lot guys where really evenly matched.
     
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  7. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I'm thankful Joe Louis existed.
     
  8. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think it would have continued similar to how it was going.

    Bill Conn, Buddy Baer and Elmer Ray would be strong candidates.
     
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  9. janitor

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    The title would have changed hands a few times, and we would almost certainly have had three or more additional lineal champions.

    It is quite likely that either Schmeling or Baer becomes a two time champion.

    Farr, Pastor, Godoy, Conn, Nova, and even Baer junior, could all theoretically do it with the right breaks.

    Later on Bivins and Ray would be in the argument, and you might even see Walcott or Charles get two bites of eh cherry.

    Nobody is a particular standout, so it likely depends on which fights get made.
     
  10. michael mullen

    michael mullen Active Member Full Member

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    Either Schmeling, Baer, or Conn.
     
  11. michael mullen

    michael mullen Active Member Full Member

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    Baer Jr??? Jethro Bodine was way too young in the late 30's.
     
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  12. janitor

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    He might have been well place in the early 40s, especially if the champion was somebody likely to struggle with his size or power.
     
  13. Fergy

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    I'd say Jersey Joe, but his record suggests he could be unpredictable at times. So who knows really. Almost beating Joe Louis was a big challenge for him, same as defending against Rocky, who else could really keep Walcott interested and motivated?
     
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  14. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually think Baer could have won his belt back. So I’ll go with
    Bivins
    Baer
    Walcott
    Would have been nice to get a rematch w Louis for Baer. The first showing was not a good one for him
     
  15. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I think Billy Conn would have held the title for a bit. After the war though he would have been done.

    The probably Walcott would have reigned until Charles challenged him.
     
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