Should Gennady Golovkin go into the IBHOF?

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Should Golovkin get into the Hall of Fame?

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  1. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What welterweight did he call out? Maybe Floyd right? There would have been unbelievable money in that. Who else?
     
  2. Scar

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    His biggest win to date, Kell Brook.
     
  3. The G-Man

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    His biggest win to date is Jacobs.
     
  4. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well that's a fallacy argument. Where does it say you HAVE TO move up?
    That's something you've pulled out of your stinky arse. Again Hagler didm't move up is he a bum?
    That's a rhetorical question..
    .Also it just isn't that simple to move up in weight. Middle has always been one of the best and deepest divisions so what move upto Super Middle with even less competition? or move upto LIght Heavy? If he was 6ft 2inch or 6ft 3inch then that might be a valid claim. However he isn't so it's not.
    The fact is GGG isn't that tall especially when we see quite a few Middle champs being comfortably over 6ft in the last couple of decades.
    You might counter with Ginger. but he's been caught taking lot's of gear in order to move up and has the judges in his back pocket. so not really a fair comparison.
    Again he doesn't have to do anything. certainly not because some skanky fanny on the internet says so.
     
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  5. Scar

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    I wouldn't really compare Hagler and what he has accomplished with a farce that is barely remembered after only 1 year of inactivity.

    No, I never suggested he must move up. But if he genuinely wanted to achieve greatness in the sport, he could have done it and taken risks in the process. Instead, he preferred to stay in his division, call out smaller opponents for paydays, and pad his record with cherry picked opponents. So please refrain from typing in junk like "most avoided beast". The fights won't come to him for free, he has to earn it by taking risks. Everyone took risks. Mayweather moved up and accepted all De La Hoya's stipulations (weight, gloves, venue, less than previously offered money, ring size...etc), Pacquiao moved up and took risks when he had no more options, Leonard, Hearns, Roy Jones, Toney, Holyfield, Marquez and the examples are endless.
     
  6. m.s.

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    We're in the year 2022 you know. Since that win, jacobs, Canelo ×2 and Derevyanchenko are all better than the undefeated pound for pound ranked Brook at the time because he was coming up in weight.
     
  7. exocet76

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    This is just a circular converstaion. I respecrfully disagree. I'm not a fanboy either and I never said he was the "Most avoided beast"
    Of course he will be remembered he's been a champ for over 10 years....
    The point is your biased to the point that your not being remotely rational. so your opinion means nothing and meaningless. you should ask yourself why you have such strong feelings towards someone that you've never met. it's telling and not in a positive way.
     
  8. red corner

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    First ballot HOF fighter, and like vote leader in his class.
     
  9. m.s.

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    Lots of guys avoided him at middleweight, but they aren't now, so at the age of 40 he could go after guys like Andrade, Charlo and Murata, maybe Canelo for all the belts at168lbs and then Ward in a comeback at 175lbs. He would have to get by Murata, then if he gets by Canelo which is unlikely with GGG'S age and Canelo's judges, then a dream match against Ward at 175lbs. Thats what i would like to see.
     
  10. Scar

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    So you're saying it's either undefeated Welterweight Brook or Mr. 14 professional fights Derevyenchenko? :lol:
     
  11. Scar

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    If a Welterweight didn't mind fighting him, I don't see any issues at Middleweight. Please save that "most avoided" garbage for yourself. If he couldn't find opponents, which was clearly the case, he could have moved up and taken risks rather than call out undefeated Welterweights and Jr. Middleweights for paydays.
     
  12. Scar

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    Great fighters are remembered for the risks they took, and the great competitive fights they provided. They are also remembered for being overlooked only to prove everyone wrong after taking a dangerous risk. Golovkin never provided either. The only risk he took was still against a smaller opponent and he lost.
    What you consider rational or not means jack to me, really. These are the realities to refuse to accept and instead prefer to cover them up with garbage like "most avoided behemoth".
     
  13. exocet76

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    You're trolling and have been for some time.
    It shows your integrity if you offer up Brook as his best win...
     
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    I showed you 4 fights, we're talking about fair results not crooked results.
     
  15. Scar

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    Your imagination doesn't count. I'm sure you're uncontrollably soiling yourself lately especially with the possibility to see Alvarez give the farce a third free payday. Only this time, kissing the canvas is highly possible.