Josh James William Taylor vs. Jack Catterall & Robeisy Ramirez vs. Eric Donovan RBR.

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  1. EX7EY

    EX7EY YDKSAB Full Member

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    I don't usually score fights round by round but I did last night and to be honest except for one or two rounds where I may have lost a little bit of full on concentration for 30 seconds I found it simple to score.

    What I saw for the majority of the fight was Taylor wading into close range trying to throw big shots and missing. Catterall boxing well, landing the one two and evading Taylor sloppy power punches, resetting and going again. I between that caterall also connecting with some decent power shots which ultimately put Taylor down as well.

    They both had points deducted so that was negligible in the end.

    It was just an easy fight for caterall who was never in trouble, never out boxed, never hurt. If Taylor had done to Catterall what Catterall did to Taylor, we'd all be sat here talking about a masterclass and saying caterall just not world level. Would be an easy conversation.

    Ive been falling out of love with boxing for around 12 months already but last nights just done me in. Super fights only from now on, full on casual mode. Boxing needs a serious overhaul now. After what was a really good few years in my view its gone back to the doldrums. Inbetween youtubers and mma fighters this is what we get as well. Poor.
     
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  2. Bob Flaps

    Bob Flaps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's exactly how I felt throughout the fight and immediately after - and I still think Catterall won. But as said above, if you take it down to a particular interpretation of those rules, which presumably the governing bodies give guidance on, it's nowhere near as clear-cut to score as I'd thought.

    When it gets to that level of subjectivity though, boxing is barely a sport. I think things like rhythmic gymnastics and dancing horses are a joke in the olympics but that's basically what we're talking about here, in terms of giving a non-knockout result.
     
  3. aaaaa

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    It’s literally Warrington Galahad for me. Warrington nowhere near as good as previous, Galahad much better than expected, Warrington couldn’t get the shots off and Galahad did lots of smothering/holding. Doesn’t mean Galahad automatically won it just means he did better than everyone though. Same applies to last night but obviously Warrington = Taylor and Galahad = Catterall.
     
  4. Bob Flaps

    Bob Flaps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Getting away from the judges, it didn't work out too well for Warrington. I hope the other Josh lands a very big money fight next, because these things tend to signal decline.
     
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  5. aaaaa

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    If he goes on and has a big win it’ll all be forgotten about, look at Canelo. People rarely speak about his dodgy decisions anymore.
     
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  6. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cattarell eased off and yet still outpunched josh by 8 to 3 and 9 to 3 punches in round 11 and 12. So cattarell lands 17 to 6 punches and yet loses the rounds and that was cattarell easing off and josh being the stronger fighter. Just be honest taylor got awarded them rounds so he could win the fight...as simple as that really.
     
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  7. Astro

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    I was busy with work last night and have just seen the fight now and what a scandal. The referee who had 114 - 111 for Taylor should be sentenced to a break of 6 or 12 months where he should not be allowed to judge a boxing fight. Such a result does more harm than good
     
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  8. EX7EY

    EX7EY YDKSAB Full Member

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    I don't see the point in them cooking it like they did last night.

    Taylor likely to move up now anyway so all it's done is retain his unbeaten record undeservedly and broken all the belts up again.

    Had Taylor lost like he should have, he had an easy excuse in that he's now too big for the weight. And Catterall would have been allowed his just deserts.

    Just shocking really and I can't be arsed with it. If Taylors got anything about him as a man then he needs to sort an immediate rematch with Catterall before he goes anywhere. Boxing out the window here, just do what's right as a man with a bit of pride about yourself and come out and say, 'fair play, he gave me a tough night and I was lucky to get away with it, let's do it again'
     
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  9. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    1. Catterall
    2. Taylor
    3. Catterall
    4. Catterall
    5. Catterall
    6. Catterall
    7. Taylor
    8. Catterall (10-8)
    9. Taylor
    10. Taylor (10-8)
    11. 9-9 Even
    12. Taylor

    113 - 112 Catterall

    That was my card and I get why everyone is screaming “robbery” because over the course of the fight I, like most, thought Catterall controlled it. Especially given his performance early. But I give Taylor 2 of the first 8 rounds and Catterall was quite negative and spoiled in the last few rounds whilst Taylor was the one looking to push the fight and that for me closed the score cards.
     
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  10. aaaaa

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    Exactly the same as mine but I gave Taylor the 4th.
     
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  11. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Surely tho if your pushing the fight yet get outpunched 9 times to 3 and 8 times to 3. Your pushing the fights doesnt really mean much. You cant win the round by landing 3 punches to the opponents 9. Otherwise floyd mayweather would have about ten losses.
     
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  12. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Depends how much salt you want to give Compubox numbers…. I prefer to go off what I’m actually seeing in the ring, one man was being more negative in those last few rounds and spoiling whilst the other was pushing forward forcing the fight.

    it’s all subjective though that’s just my take on it

    like I say I scored the fight to Catterall but I don’t see any case for it being a “shut out” win or Catterall by 5-6 rounds like some are saying
     
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  13. aaaaa

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    Only just seen this haha. Only had 4 pints mate so confirms I know nowt. :lol:
     
  14. kojak

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    Similar to when Taylor fought Prograis. I gave Prograis pretty much the first 4 rounds or 3-1. People had Taylor winning the first for some bizarre reason, look at punch stats and he's no where near to winning it.

    Couldn't understand people scoring that fight for the early rounds, or because Taylor was on the frontfoot or something.

    He's a very good fighter and I would say he is in sort of a fringe elite bracket.
     
  15. Brixton Bomber

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    Wow.
     
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