“This is my final fight" Tyson Fury has said he will retire after his fight against Dillian Whyte

I get it that the Usyk fight may well not happen now due to the war. But, damn man, at least fight AJ before retiring. Give the fans something.

 

I haven't even read the thread, but I already know a lot of cats are biting (or will bite) on this who should know better.

 

Still, those wins are very low key, Wlad was near 40 and Wilder was a paper champion who only fought Fury in the first place because he thought Fury was washed and done. Wilders power is very overrated, never knocked out a quality opponent besides who, ORTIZ?

Cunningham, Chisora. and Wallin are very C level wins, with Whyte being a B level win.

That resume is... interesting, if he went on to beat Usyk (and AJ If he really wants that greatness). Then it would be undeniable he is the best heavyweight of our generation, currently, he has some competition.

 

This is just the usual good ol' times trashing of modern fighters who would realistically wipe the floor with the likes of Ali, Frazier, Norton etc.

Wlad was near 40 but unlike Ali he wasn't a human punching bag in many fights and was a 24/7 athlete SHW, so he had great longevity and was a year removed from a career best performance. Fury was fighting in his 1st championship fight, away from home, as a massive underdog and B-side, against an active, historically long reigning ATG KO artist with unparalleled experience. Fury limited Wlad to the fewest punches ever landed against a winner in a 12 round heavyweight championship fight and even Wlad's judges gave Fury 8-9 rounds. If you had any objectivity or integrity you would admit that far from being "low key", it was a masterclass and a great win.

Ironic that you claim Wilder's power is overrated when your favourite HW was a light puncher even by the standards of his day, fighting cruiser and LHW sized opponents. And look at the litany of bums and journeymen who Shavers DIDN'T KO: clearly a featherfist. Ortiz would have been ducked rotten in those days even more so than today because no one wanted to fight a southpaw, let alone one with skills, power, size, vast experience, toughness and an undefeated record. The fashion in which Fury dominated Wilder in the 2nd fight yet again as the underdog and B-side on away soil comfortably makes it a great win, above anything on the record of any recent heavyweight.

Whyte has had 23 life and death rounds with Chisora, with Whyte as the A-side. Had Chisora been the A-side, he would have definitely won the first fight and very possibly the 2nd. If boxing politics is the determining factor, I don't see how Whyte can be on another level. Chisora couldn't lay a glove on Fury, whereas 2x cruiser champ Cunningham and Wallin both gave Fury tough fights in America. Whyte also blatantly ducked a fight with Wallin in Britain with Whyte as the A-side, so that again contradicts the idea that Whyte is better. And neither Wallin or Cunningham were ever sparked out cold, let alone by a shot wide underdog B-side who was away from home. Judging by what we've seen so far, Whyte would have to give Fury a competitive fight to have a strong case for being as good or better than Wallin or Cunningham.

AJ has been destroyed and quit against a little fat 25-1 underdog and was schooled by B-side underdog cruiserweight Usyk in his backyard. Had the same happened to Fury while AJ destroyed Wilder twice in America, no one would be pretending that Fury was rivaling AJ for best of the era. With every bad loss that AJ takes, the upside for beating him diminishes significantly. If Usyk beats AJ again, Fury won't need to fight him any more than he'll need to fight Parker or Ruiz. The only fighter with a rival claim to Fury as it stands is Usyk.

 

Possibilities:

1. He's telling the truth: fire isn't there anymore, carrying injuries and wear, legs have diminished badly, believes that Usyk may well beat him etc. He wants to retire at the top with great riches, without any more miles on the clock

2. He’s telling the truth in the moment but erratic as he is, he may have a completely different opinion tomorrow or in two months' time

3. He doesn't see the Usyk/undisputed fight happening any time soon due to the war in Ukraine and isn't willing, able or both to fight three unifications (and however many fights in between) for vacant belts that he won 6+ years ago and never lost in the ring

4. It's a publicity stunt designed to drive clicks, interest, debate and ticket sales for “Fury’s last fight” against Whyte

5. It's intended to help coax Wilder out of retirement

6. It's mind games, intended to create uncertainty for his rivals

7. The "retirement" is a Mayweather-esque strategic retirement: he needs time for injuries to heal, the absence of PED testing and to study, age and wear out rivals

8. It's a pre-emptive negotiation tactic to make more money down the road now that his 5 fight ESPN contract has almost been concluded: he'll have to be paid a king's ransom to be "coaxed" out of “retirement” in 12-18 months and there will be even more public interest (thus money, status) for his next comeback

 

More attention seeking

Just be ready Tyson and focus.

 

What has he done to prove that?

 

Gee whiz, thats a lot of words.

Lets agree to disagree on the fact Fury retiring after Whyte wouldn't cement himself in history as the best heavyweight of our generation, more of a Vitali type figure.

 

He'll need a big yatch for his big family. 150 mil may not be enough.

 

He's gonna leave such a divisive legacy. Some will try to argue he'd beat any HW in history others will say he beat two decent opponents ever in his career.

 

Hope this is along lines of the headline band telling the audience‘goodnight’ before their 6 encores.

 

You're being generous. He didn't exactly impress anyone beating Wlad...his victories against Wilder are impressive, but let's face it, Deontay is nowhere near Ali, Holmes, Lewis, Foreman, Louis, Marciano, prime Wlad, or Iron Mike.

 

Probably bull****, but for the best if true. He is physically declining.

 

He just scared, he knows Wilder will smash him in 4th fight

 

I do give credit to the Wlad win, while not prime he was indeed champion for 10 years straight.

Besides that, I really don't see any other wins for Fury that place him in stone, examples like Fraziers win over Ali, Ali's win over Foreman, Foremans win over Frazier/Moorer. That one win that sets his legacy in stone, I see none.