Who did Joe Louis beat that Ron Lyle couldn't?

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  1. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Please discuss/Thank you.
     
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  2. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Jersey Joe Walcott.
     
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  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Max Schmeling
    Bob Pastor
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Walcott, Conn, Schmeling, Baer
     
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  5. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see Lyle really struggling and most likely dropping decisions to Patsy Perroni, Natie Brown, Tommy Farr, Arturo Godoy, and Billy Conn. Pastor, Braddock, Schmeling, and Walcott likely stop Lyle.

    Red Burman, Freddie Beshore, Lee Savold, Jimmy Bivins, Tony Musto were all long in the tooth when Louis fought them, but they were all extremely experienced and wouldn’t shock me if they took decisions off Lyle.
     
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  6. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Walcott, Carnera, Baer, Schmelling etc.
     
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  7. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Jimmy Bivins too ..
     
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  8. McGrain

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    Loads of guys, probably.

    Lyle just didn't beat a lot of good fighters and knocked out very few.

    I think Lyle versus Simon would be a great fight. An iron jaw like Cesar Brion - good enough to take 3 or 4 rounds off Ezzard Charles in their 1952 fight - would be trouble for him I think.

    Basically, Louis's competition is laughably underrated by that "Bum of the Month" nonsense, and Lyle is the most overrated fighter on the board, possibly.
     
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  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    If I'm not mistaken, he only beat one fighter in the top ten (Shavers)?
     
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  10. McGrain

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    Certainly only KO'd one in the top ten.

    I can't remember, Jesus. I used to know all this :lol:
     
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  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I imagine a fair number would beat Lyle. Many already mentioned. I’d also like to give Bob pastor a good chance of winning a decision over Lyle.
     
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  12. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah............:lol:
     
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  13. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    He'd beat them all no problem just not as easily as Tua and Clevland Williams would.
     
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  14. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Not sure if a shot Jack Sharkey would beat Lyle but a prime one would.

    Probably a # of others
     
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  15. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lyle is more of a rise to the occasion guy capable of winning a big fight. But he is not the type to go out and get a bunch of consecutive wins against top 10 competition. or to go undefeated against top fighters very long. Lots of fighters like that--but the guys capable of a long reign of successful title defenses is a whole different skillset.
     
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