1980 jan ring magazine ali claims cleveland cleveland williams wouldve knocked him out

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  1. big cat williams

    big cat williams New Member Full Member

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    you guys bash him for not beating some super heavyweight champion or something so what he didnt beat some big and bad joe louis so what,also watch he wouldve Put patterson on the KO block if he wasnt avoided even he talks about being avoided in my magazine article i feel like he was avoided early in his career around when sylvester jones and when robert satterfield beat him also he later knocked out jones in a rematch but look how bad sonny banks was and tell me how he dropped ali you can be a considered trash fighter and still drop ali but someone who is specifically good on the punch that all droped you cant do any damage against you… you guys are funny yall just cant acept the fact yall are wrong even the GUY WHO YOUR DEFENDING SAID HE WOULDVE KNOCKED ME OUT!!!! come on guys your being more delusional and one minded than the goat,tyson got dropped by duglas candy A**
     
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  2. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can agree with this, this is why I say maybe Ali from lets just say the Williams fight maybe isn't his peak h2h form, I always thought the peak heavier 70s Ali could do much more damage as a h2h fighter
     
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  3. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, I just question his superpowers because we have no evidences of him being some kind of unstoppable force. He couldn't beat quite a few fighters who were good, but not amazing.
     
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  4. big cat williams

    big cat williams New Member Full Member

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    nah nah i don’t believe that but if you have evidence then your point is proved so cough up wheres the article but, dejohn got beat by ernie cab williams beat
    h nah i don’t believe that but if you have evidence then your point is proved so cough up wheres the article but, dejohn got beat by ernie cab williams beat cab and kayoed him to, also would be nice it williams fought dejohn
     
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  5. big cat williams

    big cat williams New Member Full Member

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    i never said he was an unstoppable force guy i never said that dude he got kayoed by satterfield and first loss is from sylvester jones pts loss then kayoed jones later on
     
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  6. big cat williams

    big cat williams New Member Full Member

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    i agree with your statements to they act like he was the only fast heavyweight look at dokes,patterson, and williams to people a
    i agree with your statements alot man i really do,people act like ali was the only fast heavyweight
     
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  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Both had Ali out on his feet at various times by Ali's own admission. Liston visibly hurt Ali at the end of round 2 or 3 (I can't remember which one). Ali more than proved his chin against both men.
     
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  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Do you have a source for this? Because prior to the fight, Ali stated "their isn't much left is there?" when talking about Williams and said he wished he fought Williams in his prime.
     
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  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    And that was a shot Dejohn in his last fight! Liston also thought very highly of Dejohn's power, and ranked him the hardest puncher he faced not named Cleveland Williams.
     
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  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Who are these fighters he couldn't beat "who were good but not amazing"? Only person who decisively beat him in his prime was Sonny Liston.
     
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  11. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He couldn't beat Machen, he didn't beat prime Terrell either. To his credit, he didn't have a lot of chances of fighting to guys.
     
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  12. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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    I think you're talking to the wrong guy
     
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  13. Richard M Murrieta

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    Nor can we forget Cleveland Big Cat Williams KO 7 of Ernie Terrell in April 1962.
     
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  14. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a FACT !!!
    If you disagree, post footage that shows otherwise. I'm talking about left hooks from those two to Ali's face, not his body. Indicate the minute and round.
     
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  15. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just like I said to 70sFan, show footage and indicate the minute and round.
     
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