Is Clenelo Going To KO Golovkin This Time???

Shadow do yourself a favour & study boxing 101 & The M of Q rules of boxing. A scoring punch is only counted when the knuckle part of the glove hits the target. An inside of the glove slap is ILLEGAL!!!!!!!

 

Currently 45 votes are saying that Alvarez won't kayo Golovkin. I wonder how many of those 45 think Alvarez wins by decision and how many think Golovkin wins the fight.

 

Yes anyone can see that Canelo has improved a lot since their first fight GGG doesn't stand a chance against this version of Canelo

 

Nevermind deserving "a shot" at G..

I honestly don't think Nelo wants/cares to fight GGG again.

It's definitely Hearn/G that want it.... If G wants to fight a prime Canelo, why not let him, it really is a lose/lose situation for Nelo... If he wins..G was washed and he "waited him out", if he loses he got beat by a washed G.

The fight really only benefits G.

 

GGG has fought his entire career at 160. Now he has been aged and pushed up to 168. Regardless of his performances in the previous fights, GGG is fighting an uncontrolled drug cheat at his peak. He won't do as well as the last time they fought.

 

You considering a landed punch "one that lands with the knuckles" is your own personal definition of what you consider a landed punch to be. In boxing, you do not need to connect with the knuckle for a punch to be considered landed. You understand that right?

In what way? Be specific. You've tried to short sell its effectiveness, as you often do when it comes to quality lands.

It sounds like you have blurry vision if you call that blurry.

How do you not see Canelo's jabbing arm in between GGG's arms and gloves. If you look closely, you can see the top of Canelo's glove pushed up against GGG's forehead in between GGG's gloves. Do you seriously not see that? And if you can't, I think we're gonna need someone else to come in here and explain to you what this screenshot yields. Because it is utterly absurd that I have to explain what is happening in that screenshot.

If you're in the business of denying screenshots, if your entire argument of this punch is "I don't know, inconclusive", then what I am arguing against? It's plainly apparent that it grazed the rib area in a downward motion. I admitted that it didn't land flush, and said I didn't consider it a "meaningful" punch, what more do you want? If you're not sure yourself that it didn't land, then just say something like "maybe it did, but I'm not sure" and I can accept that. But don't object to me counting it as a punch when the glove is right up against the body in the screenshot and there's nothing you can offer to deny that.

Call it that all you want, that "inside glove slap" still clearly landed around the guard to the ear and shoulder. That's a landed punch, you calling it an inside glove slap doesn't negate it being a landed punch.

I notice you skipped over the right hand that followed because of course that screenshot of the right hand landing on the top of GGG's head was pretty clear. Even you wouldn't deny that. I would like you to get into this punch and comment on if I described it accurately. I noted that it did hit GGG's glove on the way, moving GGG's glove it out of the way continuing on to land on the top of GGG's head. What is your reaction to that description? Do you consider that a landed punch? It had a lot of power behind it to move GGG's glove like that and still have enough force to land hard on GGG's head and compress his neck. How do you rate that punch? Partly blocked by GGG but the block attempt wasn't enough to stop that punch from landing with force. Do you have a problem with that being counted as a landed punch?

Now you're just making up stuff. Next.

Screenshots can accurately depict what landed, but in some instances you have to interpret the perception. You're lecturing me at not comprehend the basics of perception while you're not even trying to apply perception to the screenshots to see what body parts are in front of or behind other parts like gloves, then we can tell where the punch is landing if it's partly hidden. This isn't hard, but you're trying to argue that it's impossible to look at a screenshot and determine if a punch landed or not. That's your failure of "comprehending perception" not mine.

 

I wouldn't go that far, but the conventional wisdom is that Canelo's only gotten better while GGG has got older. The only thing GGG may have going for him is the inactivity, allowing himself not to take any punishment in the last couple of years would have preserved him allowing him to recharge his batteries and give it one last hurrah against Canelo.

Contrary to popular belief, I don't think GGG has really slowed down all that much. He may have slowed down a little, but preparation and timing can offset slightly reduced speed. The reason why GGG arguably did better in the rematch is that he gained experience of being in there with a high level boxer. In the first match, GGG looked like a fish out of water and was not prepared for the movement and defense from Canelo. Canelo was the ring general and GGG looked like an amateur, not knowing how to deal with Canelo's footwork and speed. With all the talk about GGG, I think the biggest question mark is how does Canelo approach the 3rd match. Does he push for the KO or does he respect GGG and keep the fight on the outside while looking for opportunities to make GGG miss and counter with big flashy shots. Or would he walk through fire again like in the rematch, knowing that he'll have to eat some jabs to land some big bombs that way. We saw two distinct styles from each fighter in the first match vs the rematch, it will be interesting to see how the two approach a third match.

 

CJ, he's calling it an inside glove slap because he already backed himself into a corner by claiming no punches landed in that clip, later revising that to one punch landed. So he's finding any reason he can come up with to deny that the other punches landed. In reality, it wasn't an inside glove slap. It was just a normal left hook that landed around the guard to the ear and shoulder. Even BCS8 admitted he considers that a hit. Don't get caught up in his spin, watch the punch yourself.

 

Oh do I understand that? Lmao. This is my last response to you shadow because there is something mentally wrong with you as I'm constantly repeating myself. You can't accept that you have poor argument. It is generally considered that an inside glove slap isn't a punch you ****ing idiot. What next hammerfists and back hands are legit landed punches? My god I don't think anyone can be this stupid and I can't believe I have to explain this. Again for the millionth time you monumental idiot, if you want to consider a inside glove slap a landed punch be my guest - but we all it's your poor interpretation in desperate attempt to giv Canelo some kind of credit.

I've explained that previously go back and ****ing read it.

Yes of course I'm absurd for not being able to see a landed punch in a blurry screenshot. And its not the fact its blurry its just you can't confirm a shot lands from a screenshot and especially those screenshot angles you've sent me. It's laughably stupid that you think otherwise.

Again Shadow it is not at all "plainly apparent" from the video or that stupid zero context screenshot. You're just lying at this point and make out as if it is clear as day when it is absolutely not.

Lmao idiot

I skipped over it because it was a slap

Lol I literally just perfect explained what you are doing but okay. You're the one lying and making out as if you are seeing things.

No ****. You can't confirm any of those punches land from the screenshots like I've said before.

This is my last response as I can anticapte exactly that you will make a similar nonsenaical rambling and I'll end up repeating myself again. At the end of the day, I'm closer to the truth than you are. And its clear as day you are Clen marketing bot, so you'll go as far as to deny reality, lie and exaggerate everything so there is no real reason to debate. Its not even a debate at this point its me pointing out things that are true and logical and you just saying words

 

I think sadly Canelo will win a fair decision this time around.
GGG is 40 years old and that's what it takes for Canelo to finally beat him

 

A 40 year old GGG KOing Canelo would be the sweetest moment in boxing history for me, no doubt

 

What's the difference between an inside glove slap and a hook? You've labeled a clean left hook around the guard an inside glove slap because you can't defend your initial claim that no punches landed in that clip. We've already heard from BCS8 that he'd count that as a landed punch, he didn't make up some nonsense about it being an inside glove slap. And BCS8 has no reason to back me up on this.

Any spin artist can take a left hook that lands and say "duhhhh it was just an inside glove snap, so it didn't really land". You're a dummy who is making dumb arguments to suit your own biased claims. Calling a left hook an inside glove slap is just a lazy way to discredit a punch. No serious boxing fan would make such an argument and go to such lengths to defend it. A left hook is a left hook, it's not an inside glove slap you tool, and any attempt to label a hook as such is beyond idiotic and has no place in a serious boxing discussion. The fact is that the punch landed, and you're only carrying on like this about it being an inside glove slap because you've already made a mockery of yourself by claiming that no punches landed in that clip which was obviously a wrong statement on your part which started all this.

And if there was any doubt about you calling everything a slap just to discredit landed punches :

How does a "slap" have enough power to move GGG's weak blocking attempt out of the way and still have enough power to continue through to GGG's head?

Look at where GGG's left glove winds up:
https://i.imgur.com/adhf3FW.jpg

See how GGG's left glove is way back behind his ear by the time Canelo's right glove lands on GGG's head. A "slap" doesn't carry that kind of power that would cause a blocker's glove to fly back behind the ear like that and still have power on it to follow through the opponent's glove and still connect to the head with force.

I mean, it's one thing for you to label the left hook a "slap" but then you double down and label the right hand a slap too. What's stopping you from labeling every Canelo hook or combo a "slap"? It's just laziness and desperation on your part to label hooks slaps. I've tried help you come to your senses, but you're not interested in doing anything but make excuses for why Canelo's punches didn't land to support your own outlandish claims. You clearly have an agenda to discredit what Canelo did to GGG, but unfortunately for you I'm here to call you out on your BS, I don't let you get away with that kind of nonsense slappy boy.

 

Again yes... When Canelo slips and evades a punch or a jab by mere inches , you count those shots as clean hits for Golovkin. Because in fight #1 Canelo slipped , parried , dodged and evaded 80% of what Golovkin threw at him.

Canelo never even being so much as buzzed in that fight proves this to be factually accurate. Not the mention the punch stats prove me right and you wrong because CompuBox shows GGG missed 500 out of 700 total punches.

Why do do you think GGG came out of those fights being hailed for his chin? Because he took all the clean heavy shots , thats why. . Canelo who has a good chin can't withstand all the blows you believe GGG landed on him to sweep a dominant victory. Thats delusion based on pure unmitigated bias. It never happened.

And lol@ your criteria for whats a clean punch.. These are two top tier elite level fighters. You don't see clean hits "with the knuckles" when the cream of the crop face each other.

The fight was too complicated for you to score which is why you disregard everything unless its a clean hit "with the knuckles" . Its your attempt to simplify the contest because both fights were far too difficult for you to score.

 

Lmao you are a ****ing idiot. You Canelo fans think inside gloves slapping is legitimate clean punching. You know what it's no longer called boxing anymore its called slapping. At the elite level clean punches do land and slapping isn't something that is prevalent you absolute imbecile.

Lmao I just can't respond to this. You and shadow are unbelievably stupid. Well actually I think Shadow is a legit Canelo marketing bot. You on the other hand are just plain stupid