Joe Joyce possible replacement for USYK - Joshua

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  1. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This ^ (For most part)

    The forum 'experts' seem to choose who wins based more on who they like/hate. I would go with an AJ UD in this.
     
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  2. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    If Joyce can take this fight past eight rounds, Joshua is in a world of trouble. That's when it becomes a battle of stamina, and in that respect Joyce is light years ahead of AJ. The difference in speed will be negated and Joyce will start landing more often and more cleanly.

    I also doubt this will be AJ's next fight. He might as well slate a genuine keep-busy fight than take the highly-motivated, kryptonite-owning domestic banana skin that is The Juggernaut...
     
  3. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joyce is far too easy to hit and will lose every round.

    Likely Joyce gets stopped late.
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Once again, people seem to be incapable of processing Joe Joyce... I'm still not sure why it's so hard for people. The man clearly has the ability to adjust his style per his opponent. Like GGG, if he feels like he can withstand the power, he will happily take one to land three, and plays the part of the proverbial Juggernaut. He gets away with this quite often, because he's got a damn good chin and most of his opponents while heavy handed, aren't savage KO artists. But when he has someone in front of him with a decent skillset and power, he takes his time, slowly breaks them down, uses his jab immaculately, and yes, picks off, parries and rolls with incoming fire excellently. He barely took a clean shot from the fairly fast Dubois. He's quite malleable in the ring, and the fact that people fail to see this perplexes and kind of amazes me, especially when it's people who should know a thing or two about this sport. People say he's too slow. Really? The man's pressure is suffocating, he cuts off the ring brilliantly, his hands may be slow, but his feet are faster than Ruiz's. Who exactly has been able to play stay away with Joe? No one.

    If there's ever been a person who the term "looks can be deceiving" applies to, it's him. Because evidently most who watch him, he deceives them. Reason, logic and all rationality freeze up, and they can no longer process what they're seeing.:lol: Maybe his bizarre slow-fast speed causes people's brains to implode, they look at him and none of it makes sense, they can't process why what he's doing is working so well. But, his punch selection is quite diverse, his combinations, while slow, are fluid, and oddly enough, the slowness, plays into his favor. The opponent sees them coming a mile away, they put their hands up to block the shots, then when an inch away from landing, Joe adjusts the trajectory, and lands anywhere he sees an opening. His offense being his defense, is also quite applicable here. He short circuits his opponents, because he does subtly vary up the speed on his shots in close. So while they thought they were defending, he lands, which provokes a reaction, they reflexively try to defend where he just landed, presenting him with another opening or two, rinse and repeat. It's all due to his off kilter timing and rhythm. Think I'm crazy, go back and watch him. He does this all of the time. Even the missed shots he lands to the shoulders and arms take a toll. So after a while, all those thudding short shots start adding up, it's like being in a room with a pitching machine, flinging little gumball machine rubber balls at you for an hour. Each and every one of those ****ers hurt, eventually your arms start cramping up and drop, you'll no longer be capable of defending yourself and you succumb.

    Joe will KO Joshua, it'll be death by 1000 cuts. He'll take the Dubois approach early, then as AJ's gas tank depletes from the pressure and the facial damage from the jab mounts. The Juggernaut will come out to play, punches in bunches will be coming at AJ from every angle, battering him senseless until he wilts into a quivering muscle bound heap along the ropes.
     
  5. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Really good fight, and once again AJ should get respect for fighting an opponent that brings new stylistic challenge and power. No one else is doing it.

    I’m a big fan of both and don’t really know who to pick. Joyce is really easy to hit clean and it might just come down to whether or not his chin can hold up to AJ’s speed and power. 50/50 fight in my opinion
     
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  6. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like Joyces chances in this one. He's a good boxer who moves well, with a nice thudding jab. I can easily see him wearing down Joshua.
     
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  7. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua outboxes him, imo. I could see the pre-Ruiz version blowing his wad and getting stopped, but today's Joshua is too cautious for that. He might even get a late stoppage, but more likely he'd conserve his gas tank and not take many chances en route to a 9-3 UD.
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, when you put it like that...
     
  9. Your Mum

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    Joshua to me has turned into a fighter that previously would have beat Usyk by KO and lost to Joyce by KO, to a fighter that would lose to Usyk on pts and beat Joyce on pts
     
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  10. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Superb assessment.
     
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  11. WhataRock

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    I'd be surprised if they took this fight.

    It's gosh darn dangerous for AJ.
     
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  12. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua would be very unwise to take this one. Joyce is all wrong for him with his ability to cut down the ring and apply constant pressure.
     
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  13. Serge

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    When AJ looks in the mirror at his reflection he sees a 245lb Ali staring back at him whereas in reality it's Herman Munster.

    When Joyce looks at his reflection in the mirror he sees Herman Munster staring back at him but in reality it's actually a Ali/Herman Munster hybrid.

    AJ inhabits a realm of delusions whereas Joyce inhabits a realm of illusions and evidently these illusions cause a lot of confusion to those that DKSAB.

    Why do people continue to believe their own eyes when they're lying to them?

    If you haven't got your head around the concepts of Slow-Fast Speed and Rigid-Slickness yet you never will :facepalm:
     
  14. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It's a great mesh of styles and something that would be very competitive. I'd love to see it.
     
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  15. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Maybe no height advantage but Joyce is definitely a bigger man.

    Joyce will probably weigh 20lbs more
    Joyce is just a big guy doesn’t even look pumped up at 260 and still lean.

    AJ would be the size of Wilder if he wasn’t on the juice
     
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