List of HW champs "Big" James Toney spanks-

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  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Schmeling got robbed in the second fight, have you even see it? Also, have you seen Hamas rematch?
     
  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Schmeling stopped a lot of durable fighters. I'd certanly give him higher chance than most unskilled big brawlers from HW division.
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Only watched the first one. The point is that Toney was well within their league.
     
  4. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You should know that it's well known robbery.

    Your point is fair, but your argumentation simply isn't.
     
  5. McGrain

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    I don't think that the given weight of the given fighter matters even 1%. I think of all the guys who might have knocked him out, Sam Langford the night he KO'd Joe Jeanette, also 200lbs, would be near the front of the queue.

    Schmeling very, very accurate, very good with any hint of passivity, and very consistent. Certainly won't insist, but that's my pick.

    I'm content it's a better one than Toney to beat Schmeling, which was the post I was responding to.
     
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  6. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Add Joe Jeanette to this list of guys James would beat as HW. I'd say Langford vs Toney would be a back and forth very close fight. But as far as knocking James out you need to get him out of there with one shot. Because he's going to make whatever comes after it miss. I don't think Langford or Schmeling have that type of power. I think it's way more likely he goes to a decision with smaller guys. But a Tyson or a Lennox or a legit HW puncher could put him out in 1 punch.
     
  7. michael mullen

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  8. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney beats Braddock and Valuev. Possibly Carnera
     
  9. CANNONBALL

    CANNONBALL Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Toney 2003 -2005 in my opinion beats -
    sullivan
    corbett
    fitz
    jeffries
    hart
    burns
    johnson
    willard
    sharkey
    carnera
    baer
    braddock
    johannson

    50-50 v schmeling, coetzee, berbick

    loses to -
    charles
    walcott
    marciano
    patterson
    liston
    ali
    frazier
    foreman
    norton
    holmes
    weaver
     
  10. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Generals the first door on the left kid
     
  11. CANNONBALL

    CANNONBALL Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kid??????????

    Twat
     
  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well within their league? Hmm? After moving to heavyweight in 2003 his record was 10-6-1 with 2 no contests.. 10 wins out of 19 fights.
    A win over the corpse of Evander
    he beat Fres Oquendo
    NC with Ruiz
    Draw and a NC with Rahman
    2 losses to Peter
    and a loss at cruiser in 2011 to Lebedev

    That league ain't very high to say he'd beat Schmeling or a lot of heavyweight champs of the past
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Your post gives me the feeling that you’ve never watched Toney’s second fight with Rahman, fight with Ruiz, and first fight with Peter. Jirov was also a quality champion who was roughly the size of Schmeling and Toney took him apart. They’re all on YouTube and decent enough fights.

    Toney wasn’t consistent or good enough for me to think he’d be a long reigning heavyweight champion back then, but I also think he’d have success and probably beat guys like the Dempsey who Tunney beat.
     
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  14. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dontay Wilder is the 1st fighter to pop in my head. No real jab, telegraphed and over commits to his right hand , bad positioning, his defense is throwing up his arms. No real threat to counter punch.
    Most skilled counter punchers in history ruined Wilder. Even a fat above best fighting weight one like Toney.
     
  15. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Here's my list