How good is Floyd's resume.

We don’t need footage to rate him.

It would be lovely, but it’s not necessary.

Why?

Because we have footage of some of the guys he faced, as well as many reports from well respected former fighters, managers, historians and journalists of the time.

First hand accounts.

He was Floyd’s size.

Yet he fought and beat a guy like Gene Tunney.

Gene Tunney was a very good fighter.

Gene Tunney fought and beat Jack Dempsey twice.

We have footage of both Dempsey and Tunney.

We have footage of other fighters of the era, with credible reports from a number of different sources.

If you really believe that all fighters of that era were poor then you are being ignorant.


The late, great John Garfield was once asked on the Classic:

“JG, how can you rate Greb so highly when nobody saw him fought”?

His response:

“Well, you don’t need to see a hurricane up close, in person, if you can witness it’s devastating after affects”


Regarding Floyd, he was one of the greatest fighters of all time.

If you want to label him as being the GOAT in terms of ability, I won’t argue.

Here’s the problem:

You have agreed that the Marquez win wasn’t great due to what happened with Floyd deliberately cheating him on the scales. And it’s great and honest of you to be so truthful about that. But then when you look at many of his other fights, you see many similar issues. So many of his fights come with a ‘BUT…..’

So his resume starts to look like this:

Marquez - A great win, BUT………..

Canelo - A great win, BUT a completely unnecessary C-W against a pre-prime fighter.

Oscar - A great win, BUT a close win over a faded fighter.

Manny - A great win, BUT………….

Cotto - A great win, BUT……….

Hatton - A great win, BUT……..

Mosley - A very good win, BUT……


Now unfortunately, although his resume is still great overall, all of those ‘BUTS’ simply weaken it.

That’s why people question it.

He does have a great resume, but it looks better on paper than it is in reality.

As great as he was, he hasn’t actually got many truly great wins without any of those BUTS in place.

Not all of the issues were of his doing, but many of them were.


He’s an ATG with a great resume, but one which COULD have been even greater.

 

Why are you so deluded?

You’re an intelligent guy but one who just goes crazy when Floyd is involved.

At no point would Floyd ever have stopped Oscar.

Stop being ridiculous.

 

WTF?

Ha!

 

No.

Go and educate yourself on the man’s career.

Both guys were 5’8.

Yet one of them fought LHW’s, and also sparred and wanted to fight Jack Dempsey.

Whilst the other one hid from Manny Pac for 5 years, before then doing the very same thing as what he’d accused Manny of doing.


One guy had 300 fights.

The other one had to keep retiring and use an MMA fighter to retire on 50-0.


Greb:

“Get me Dempsey!”


Floyd:

“We don’t fight to see who’s the best. It wasn’t the right time to fight Manny earlier. But now it’s the right time to make the fight”

 

We have videos of some of the guys who the 5’8 MW fought.

We certainly have a gauge.

If a 5’8 MW beat credible LHW’s and HW’s of his day, then he was certainly something special.

 

Pac couldn't beat jmm clearly and lost to a faded erik Morales he's not beating pbf. He has no answers for pbfs ability to control range and dictate distance on him. Pbf beats any version of pac because of this.

 

Shame we'll never know.

 

Not as good as his fans think it is. Not as bad as his haters think it is.

 

Damn good

 

I know and so do you if you know boxing

 

If you truly, and I mean truly, madly, deeply wish to display your utter frigging midwit psychopathy, the first-and I mean the VERY FIRST-thing that you can and should and probably will do is to suggest that someone from Floyd's era actually has a better resume than Floyd himself. The hoople-headed, pinky-raised masses of discerning dim-bulbary, escorted by the prime police riding on their short team bus, undoubtedly rushing in to deny objective reality, as though it were their own special part in the morality play of life. Shaved man bad, oh, Lort, do I know, shaved man bad!

 

Boxing just doesn't work like that mate. I knew AJ would beat Ruiz, I knew Lewis would Rahman, I knew Wlad would beat Fury. There's many results that I knew before the opposite result occurred.

Either way this isn't really what the thread is about. His resume is ATG, like I said.

 

It is a very good resume but not a great resume. Floyd gets overrated because he marketed his undefeated record as an equivalent to being a great fighter. Too many cherry picks. He was biggest money maker in the sport after the De La Hoya fight and was always a business man first.
Closing out your career with McGregor, Berto and a rematch with Madiana is not the way he should of went out.
Making the pacquaio fight so late whomever you blame for that also hurts. Would of been much better had it happened before Pac’s brutal loss to JMM.

 

Greb's resume is full of bums. He had a thirteen career and 298 fights. That's 15 fights a year. That means he fought once a month and two times a month for three of those months. Plus outta all those fights, he had only 49 knockouts. He was fighting mostly bums and them bums was going the distance.