Carlos Monzon Vs Hearns - Is This The Worst, Fight At Middle For Tommy?

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  1. Mark Dunham

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    That's amazing. it just proves the saying "you cant keep a good man down"
     
  2. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    I know why and so do you, it has something to with the language barrier. I do not care about the fighter with what you described above, they are boring, you seen one, you seen them all. I do not care for fighters that are whiney and snivelers either who are always complaining about the decisions rendered against them, who claim conspiracy. I have no problem with difference in opinions but then I am not a follower to keep up with the present popular trend nor do I appreciate some moron calling me a fool, when in reality he is a bigger fool for being a follower. We know who I am speaking of, he is like his hero Tommy Hearns, he can dish it out but cannot take it. So he has been on this site ten years, big deal. He needs to learn to keep his yap shut, or else face insults right back. He referred to us as a zoo animal, that is juvenile. The Monzon Mafia, proud to be a member, better than being a follower.
     
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  3. michael mullen

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    He's practicing his religion...Fab Fourism...we mustn't say critical things, or pick against,,,any one of their 4 saints...even though these critical things happen to be true.
     
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  4. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    The Beatles like I say were The Fab Four For Me.
     
  5. michael mullen

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    A few reasons I pick Monzon with confidence vs Tommy Hearns is (a) Hearns has a weak chin. (b) He has a low ring IQ.. (c) Hearn's never distinguished himself as a middleweight...yet, he's supposed to "beat the greatest all time middleweight champion"...yeah) being Fab Fourists, none of these fans can admit when they're wrong.
     
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  6. michael mullen

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    Hearns had the legs of a baby gazelle. Thank goodness that Tommy had devoted cornermen to carry him away like a baby after being ko'ed by Hagler.
     
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  7. surfinghb

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    He never settled in at the weight .. He always was going up and down , back up back down ,, for 8 years
    He wasnt doing himself any favors , and people here dont even talk about it.. It just goes right over their heads
     
  8. Richard M Murrieta

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    I pick Carlos Monzon, the guy had tremendous confidence and his own skillset, he had not lost a fight since Oct 9 1964, spanning 82 consecutive wins, he had 61 KO's on his record , 14 title defenses, retired as champion, not many Fab fighters can boast of that accomplishment. When he walked down the ring isle, he did not put a circus act like many of those clowns did, he did not boast, his fists did their talking in the ring. Carlos also had an iron chin, took a tremendous shot from Rodrigo Valdes in their second bout on July 30 1977, got up and won. Took a hard right hand from Bennie Briscoe on Nov 11 1972 in round 9 of his title defense against Bennie, remained upright and won on points. Tommy hits the canvas every time a hard puncher touches his glass jaw.
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    :lol:
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    Oops.
     
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  11. michael mullen

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    Yeah surfinghb, troublesome details such as that, common sense and logic interfere with the sacred Fab Fourist beliefs, like "thou musteth changeth weight classes".....
     
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  12. michael mullen

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    I can't agree more Richard!!
     
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  13. Flash24

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    Most of you Monzon's fans show your own bias through your words.
    Calling other pro ATG'S clowns, Saying Hearns had a weak IQ
    (Which is one of the dumbest comments I've seen on this site)
    Or skinny legs, weak chinned ,etc etc, etc, to boost Monzon
    is ridiculous and silly.
    Monzon doesn't need you to denigrate other men who have stepped
    in the boxing and put it on the line to uplift his standing in boxing.
    His record speaks for itself.
    That's why it's so hard to take you seriously. The insinuation of
    most don't like Monzon because of the language barrier is also
    arsine and silly. Either one can fight, or he can't that simple
    Boxing speaks a language of it's own. It's language can be
    understood by anyone from the South Pacific, South and Central
    America , Uganda, Chicago, Miami , Israel ,Jamaica , Russia,
    and every spot in between.
    If someone has issues with other cultures , it's some of you
    Monzon fans, Your own words show this.
    This is supposed to be a site of different opinions. As long
    as the opinions are reasonable and thought out , why does
    it take insults to voice your different point of view. Why
    the hostility? It's like any different point of view on Monzon
    insults some of you.
    Why?
    Anyone who knows ANYTHING about boxing know
    Monzon was a great fighter, that's not debatable
    but he wasn't invincible.
    He had certain weaknesses as EVERY fighter has.
    Certain styles could exploit those weaknesses.
    Certain physical attributes could be a very
    serious problem for him.
    If some of you actually watched him fight without
    The Cult of Monzon mentality you'd see that.
    And that's if you've actually watched him fight
    at all.
     
  14. Richard M Murrieta

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    In answer to your posts, I did see him fight on television live when boxing was shown over the air waves, from 1970 until he retired in 1977. There was none of this rip off pay per view nonsense like today. I even ran into him in person on March 24 1979. But since you are on this kick that you are now Holier Than Thou, you have posted some pretty mean posts to others, a lot of fighters including Carlos Monzon thought that these fantasy fights were as you said, Ridiculous and Silly, I watched an interview when he was asked by a reporter on that subject. I will not participate in these child like fantasy fights anymore, because the reality is those fighters that are pitted against each other will never fight each other. Tommy Hearns does not need for you to defend him either. You are just a plain old follower, you cannot help it, just like your Racism. You are like another poster that you are defending, You Can Dish It Out, But Cannot Take It. Best of luck to you and that imbecile that you defend. There are no hostilities but pity to a happy couple who do not know anything about boxing, Go ahead and report me. You would be doing me a big favor. I have a social life unlike you outside this site. The Lounge is more mature site, than a site that promotes childlike day dreaming. You started it, and I ended it, I am not going to sit still and allow you to throw insults. You and this illiterate site are a waste of time. You can kiss off where the sun never shines. Shove it.
     
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  15. Flash24

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    What insult did I write? What imbecile am I defending? What did I dish out
    and not accept? Who am I following? When did I demonstrate a racist
    point of view?
    Why are you so angry about a point of view that was really middle of the
    road? Not leaning one way or the other. Other than how hostile some become
    if someone has a different point of view on Monzon?
    If I've wrote some "mean" post (I have) it was strictly from a personal
    attack received, and was directed at the individual, not everyone.
    I've never reported anyone on this site (And wouldn't know how)

    You wrote theirs no hostilities , but your post suggest otherwise.
    But it's all good , unlike you I really don't have any animosity
    towards you. I'm at peace with myself.
    But sometimes the truth hurts. You're a prime example of that
    fact.
     
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