Myth: Roberto Duran has a better resume than Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by NoNeck, Mar 12, 2022.


Page 11 of 60
  1. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,586
    11,363
    Mar 23, 2019
    Boy, I feel dumb. Thank you for being patient.
     
    RulesMakeItInteresting, Mar 15, 2022
    RulesMakeItInteresting, Mar 15, 2022
    #151
    Bokaj likes this.
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    25,120
    15,899
    Apr 3, 2012
    When did I declare Pacquiao's Toradol shot to be a significant PED?

    I am actually advocating for Pacquiao in this thread, stating that hs had a better resume than Duran, and haven't even gotten around to crunching the lineal numbers or finding a place to put the draw with Marquez.

    Please stop trying to sound scientific. Most old boxers who started at a young age will have low T:E ratios and I posted the study to support it. Depleting T alone will lower the ratio. Hypogonadism will invariably lower the ratio.
     
    NoNeck, Mar 15, 2022
    NoNeck, Mar 15, 2022
    #152
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    25,120
    15,899
    Apr 3, 2012
    Lineal championships won:
    Duran: 2 (135, 147)
    Mayweather: 5 (130, 135, 147 in 06 and 2010, 154)
    Pacquiao: 5 (112, 126,130, 140, 147 in 2016)
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2022
    NoNeck, Mar 15, 2022
    NoNeck, Mar 15, 2022
    #153
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    26,808
    44,001
    Mar 3, 2019
    Pacquiao also won the lineal title at 112
     
    George Crowcroft, Mar 15, 2022
    George Crowcroft, Mar 15, 2022
    #154
    cross_trainer and NoNeck like this.
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    40,603
    9,916
    Mar 7, 2012
    Absolutely nothing.

    It just made me laugh out loud that’s all.
     
    Loudon, Mar 16, 2022
    Loudon, Mar 16, 2022
    #155
  6. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    18,064
    15,493
    Dec 20, 2006
    While @NoNeck ’s post is receiving a lot of criticism, I don’t think it is an unreasonable position. I understand it’s not a popular take in classic, but imagine in 10 years it might gain traction. Personally I don’t think there is much separating Duran and Floyd or even Pac. I think it is close enough that it warrants a good review and discussion, but the arguments are to heated and biased both ways for me ti chime in again on this thread. But Duran, PBF, SRL and Pac all deserve to be discussed in terms of contrasting their resumes and accomplishments…I just don’t think this thread will accomplish that purpose. Oh well
     
    PhillyPhan69, Mar 16, 2022
    PhillyPhan69, Mar 16, 2022
    #156
    Bokaj, cross_trainer and NoNeck like this.
  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    25,120
    15,899
    Apr 3, 2012
    Floyd is out ahead and Pac slightly edges Duran. Just say it. The kids today will say the same thing in 15 years anyway.
     
    NoNeck, Mar 16, 2022
    NoNeck, Mar 16, 2022
    #157
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    40,603
    9,916
    Mar 7, 2012
    11 pages in and you still don’t know the difference between wins and resume.

    Duran has the best resume of the 3, irrespective of the losses.

    Duran has the best singular win of the 3.

    Floyd and Manny have a bigger group of wins than Duran.
     
    Loudon, Mar 16, 2022
    Loudon, Mar 16, 2022
    #158
  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    25,120
    15,899
    Apr 3, 2012
    He has a worse resume. That’s the point of the thread.

    You probably use jobs that you were fired from on your resume.
     
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2022
    NoNeck, Mar 16, 2022
    NoNeck, Mar 16, 2022
    #159
    PhillyPhan69 likes this.
  10. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    13,491
    18,122
    Oct 4, 2016
    Ray Robinson lost 19 fights, I guess in your world he's ranked about 22nd?
     
    Reinhardt, Mar 16, 2022
    Reinhardt, Mar 16, 2022
    #160
  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    25,120
    15,899
    Apr 3, 2012
    ^Completely, 100% unwilling to admit that Duran looks worse on resume than Pac and Floyd based on a lot more than loses+ “No Mas” pass issued.
     
    NoNeck, Mar 16, 2022
    NoNeck, Mar 16, 2022
    #161
  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    13,491
    18,122
    Oct 4, 2016
    Which of those fighters Manny and Floyd beat do you think Duran couldn't beat?
    Do you think either of them could beat Ray Leonard at 147?
    Head to head you'll be in a small minority if you think either one beats Duran at 135 -147 pounds.
     
    Reinhardt, Mar 16, 2022
    Reinhardt, Mar 16, 2022
    #162
  13. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    13,491
    18,122
    Oct 4, 2016
    Oh my Lord!!!!!!
     
    Reinhardt, Mar 16, 2022
    Reinhardt, Mar 16, 2022
    #163
    George Crowcroft and Young Terror like this.
  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    25,120
    15,899
    Apr 3, 2012
    Sims, Laing.
     
    NoNeck, Mar 16, 2022
    NoNeck, Mar 16, 2022
    #164
  15. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    13,491
    18,122
    Oct 4, 2016

    Which one of those 50 fighters will, beat Roberto Duran?
     
    Reinhardt, Mar 16, 2022
    Reinhardt, Mar 16, 2022
    #165
Page 11 of 60