Do past fighters get overrated because of nostalgia.

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I'm actually incredibly nostalgic when it comes to most things

    I haven't actually tried to argue that one is better than the other

    I just like taking little shots at the nostalgia snob types sometimes who always pick fighters from yesteryear to beat the ones of today and act like said fighters of yesteryear never lost, didn't lose to or struggle badly against inferior or far inferior opponents, didn't get knocked down, didn't receive gifts from the judges, and didn't have off nights

    Why?

    Because they irritate me
     
  2. bulldoze

    bulldoze Member Full Member

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    It is actually much healthier and also more performant to gain weight, take time off and then only focus properly in camp. You need to let the niggles disappear and the muscles to heal - mentally it also very important to switch off.

    There is an old saying 'To get in shape you must first get out of shape'

    Of course some fighters take it to absurd levels - I am looking at you Ricky Hatton. :eatingburger
     
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  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think people are saying that many of them couldn’t go 15 as we see them today.

    As in - They’re not in the best of condition. Especially the HW’s.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes.

    The body needs a rest.

    Many of the old time fighters fought too often and too much.

    They wouldn’t have been 100% healthy going into the ring.
     
  5. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Guys in the past generally had better skills. A guy like Deontay Wilder would not have been even a contender in the 70s.
     
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  6. red corner

    red corner Active Member banned Full Member

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    Yes and current fights get overrated by fans boys who know little about the old timers. Works both ways, right?
     
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  7. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This current era of fighters is weak af it’s not nostalgia it’s being real, how can you compare a guy and say they better now when these guys ain’t fighting nobody.
    Eras in the past we KNEW guys level because they fought too comp, the current crop we have now we have to guess for the most part because they stall out average fights and spend they career fighting bums with only 1/2 good wins if that.
    I’d take Castillo or casamayor or Marquez or mosley and a host of others over every single LW right now.
    Trinidad vs Crawford or Porter get real he knocking they block off
    Tarver vs GGG or toney or Roy Jones vs GGG or Charlo
    These guys need to fight and maybe then we can get an accurate depiction but as currently stands it’s a handful off fighters who would be competitive that we have evidence on but that’s maybe 15% of current guys.
     
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  8. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What's a contender - someone who's ranked in the top-10 of his division, right? Are you saying, that Wilder wouldn't even have been that, 50 years ago?
     
  9. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    What’s 15 rounds got to do with anything? Modern fighters aren’t conditioned to go 15 rounds because it is no longer a thing anymore. If fights still went 15 rounds modern fighters would be conditioned to go that many rounds. Going by that logic fighters like Sullivan must be considered the greatest since fighters from that era went up to 40 rounds!
     
  10. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    your repeating yourself
    and no bodies listening
    i stand by my statement
     
  11. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It does not. Fighters fight at a greater pace when they have shorter fights.
     
  12. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You never know to be honest.

    Maybe years from now younglings will be debating why Joe Joyce is one of the most under appreciated h2h heavyweights with modern boxers.

    Perhaps the kids watching now will take this era as a fantastic one and talk about it 20 years from now even though they complain about it now. (if global warming hasn't turned us into a burrito in a microwave).
     
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  13. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    Your statement is a joke. And you have literally just proven why I had to repeat myself. All you said was “I stand by my statement.” But you gave no reason for why my criticisms isn’t valid. Even after reinforcing my criticism you still can’t give me a reason why a modern fighter couldn’t go 15 rounds if he was conditioned to do so.
     
  14. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    i gave my reasons before
    fighters could not fight 3 fights in two weeks in this day and age
    to modicoddled
    if you think otherwise ask promoters
    fighters etc why they arnt doing this
    your respeating yourself
    and nobody's listening
    echo echo echo
    i thought youd put me on ignore
    rent free baby
    you cry like one
     
  15. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    There are plenty of guys struggling with 12 now as it is.
    It s common sense they would be worse not better over 15.
     
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