Your unpopular boxing opinions

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mrkoolkevin, Mar 8, 2019.


  1. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    LOL, I missed this!

    Everyone has their own “Happy Place” - Madeline would def. fit into mine. I’ll leave little people dressed as cowboys riding on tricycles to others if that floats their boat. Ha. Oh yeah, and Julie Bowen with big jugs….of beer can jump into my HP dreams also.

    As to Madeline Kahn, she was gorgeous and an extremely funny lady (Young Frankenstein for one). Taken away far too young.
     
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  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Agreed. But I am uncomfortable with the way you put "Happy Place" in quotation marks, because it makes it sound shady. But it is not shady. It is beautiful. A beauty that runs deep, like the sea of love. A depth never before explored by anyone living outside Jules Verne's mind.
     
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  3. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Happy Place. All fixed. My bad. May I also volunteer Xanadu? Not the movie….of course.
     
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  4. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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  5. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Napoles is extremely overrated at welterweight.
    Don't get me wrong - he's a great fighter and his best years were at a lighter weight I get that.
    But he just doesn't impress me at welterweight.
    He had a close fight with Lewis. Went full 15 with Gray.
    In my opinion he would be a sitting duck against say someone with Leonard's hand speed.
     
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  6. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Not sure if I've said this already but: In this forum, "strength" is probably the most overrated, and most poorly measured, attribute in boxing.

    Even more so than punching power, and that says a lot...
     
  7. DanDaly

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    Only a mere coincidence that Mr. K mentioned strength but my unpopular opinion is that the strength and conditioning in the sport of boxing is in large part inappropriate. Both old and new school get things both wrong and right. First example being road work. I'm of the opinion that there's an over emphasis on running in general whether you're of the long distance or sprint camp. They both provide an excellent base of conditioning and should be included as such but boxing specific endurance comes from actually boxing. Practicing your sport.

    Second example is resistance training. Every athlete should lift weights and get generally strong in the main compound lifts (squat, bench, deadlift, press, row) but there's a point of diminishing returns. I don't believe it would be worthwhile for a high level professional fighter to spend copious amounts of time taking, say, their squat much past 405 depending on bodyweight. Resistance training is terrific from an injury prevention and longevity standpoint if for nothing else. Calisthenics are less important but these athletes should be able to move their bodyweight with relative easy through space. Most strength and conditioning today appears to be total garbage. Lots of extra fluff like balancing on bosu balls doing barbell movements for "core strength" or whatever.

    My other probably unpopular opinion is that most of these fantasy fights between high level fighters are so close that it's pretty foolish to call people idiots or morons for their opinion. I've been pretty guilty about this over the years. I mean, how do you know FOR SURE that Duran would smoke Mayweather?
     
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  8. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    Neely from Baywatch is tougher than Peter Mcneeley.
    The judges who scored 119-109 in favour of montell griffin in the James Toney rematch should have been fired on the spot.I had it 116-112 for Toney.
     
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  9. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What can excellent post and I agree somewhat about your view on running. I also think though that running alot and say everyday is very rough on the body while say something like swimming provides cardio and is less taxing on the body.
     
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  10. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Unpopular opinion (around here): It's a real shame that Richard Steele stopped the Chavez-Taylor fight.
     
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  11. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    At first I was disturbed by the stoppage as it was a big fight. But thinking about it, he (Referee Richard Steele) was looking out for the safety of the fighters. I believe that Julio Caesar Chavez destroyed the cheekbone of Meldrick Taylor who was completely out in front in points heading into the final round. But look what happened to Taylor after that epic bout.
     
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  12. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Taylor suffered a definite downward trajectory after that fight.
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    Personally, I never had a problem with Richard Steele as a Referee.
     
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  13. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know for sure that Mayweather wouldn't fight Duran. :D
     
  14. Bhoybuudy43

    Bhoybuudy43 Member Full Member

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    Knockouts of Kilbane and Welsh.
     
  15. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    All forms of clinching should be banned. If a fighter does it more than twice in a round - they should be DQ'ed.