Did Manny Pacquiao take PEDs

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  1. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Voluntarily disclosed to the NSAC. You know, like what Floyd should have done when he injected himself with 750 ml of banned/illegal IV fluids.
     
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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You sound ultra butthurt.

    I gave a valid response. Thread’s not about Floyd, chief.
     
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  3. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    I gave you a valid answer. Full disclosure and transparency to the NSAC.

    And I mentioned Floyd because your agenda is all too obvious especially when it comes to the fighting senator.

    Now...

    Why didn't Floyd check himself into a medical facility and why didn't he let the NSAC know about the IV fluids?
     
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  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It’s odd that you know my agenda when I haven’t a slightest clue who you are or what you’ve written.
     
  5. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    I know your agenda. Joker knows your agenda, I know your agenda, we all know the agenda, your agenda.
     
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  6. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No failed tests.
    No suspicious ratio’s.
    No boulder’s for shoulder’s, or traps for dayz.
    No major vascularity.
    No body fluctuations.
    No uncle/step-dad that owns TRT-clinics but pretends to not know what TRT is while getting vampire facials.

    I can only label him a drug cheat if I’m a hater.
     
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  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    He probably did.
    We know his 2 biggest rivals did. Floyd basically confirmed when he got busted masking, his insane T values, and having a personal testing agency. Marquez growing an acne riddled 50% wider back and shoulders, while having a controversial fitness coach, plus gaining a lot of power at the end of his career.

    Still, I'm pretty sure Pac was using too. Probably not as potent as his rivals at the time, but using a cheatcode non-the-less.
     
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  8. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, it's hard to believe he wasn't enhanced.

    It's manipulative to say because he wasn't KO'ing at 147 that he wasn't juicing. What if Canelo juices to cruiser and doesn't KO fighters there, is he now not juicing because the size caught up with him?

    Just because Pac wasn't sparking people out at 147 doesn't mean he wasn't punching way above his weight still, it just proves there are still limits that PEDs can't overcome. The reality is he shouldn't have carried that much power at 147 when you look at the size/power of his opponents.

    Pac was STILL a power puncher at 147, it's obvious. These divisions aren't full of KO's like the weightier divisions anyway.
    Just off the top of my head, he dropped or badly hurt these fighters he didn't finish, but was still a big puncher in the fight.
    - Algieri
    - Thurman
    - Horn
    - Broner
    - Bradley (though Bradley is quite small)
    - Vargas

    The idea he didn't have big power at welter is not true.

    So let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say he wasn't fully grown until he was 24 years old when he fought Barrera at featherweight.

    How do you go from featherweight to welter and still be a power puncher without PEDs? It's absurd really. And then without the benefit of the doubt, how do you got from flyweight (his 20year old man weight) to welter and do the same thing?
     
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  9. DON1

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    100%. He all of sudden went from a human to a mutant, you could see it. He was frothing at the mouth and all sorts. Cheating *******.
     
  10. Themessiah

    Themessiah El Jefe Full Member

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    He didn't test positive, he admitted taking it though
     
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  11. PH|LLA

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    you know you're a once in a generation talent when you're so good people think it must've been cheating.
     
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  12. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Lol…

    I love Pac-Man…. But come on…

    Adults don’t gain weight very quickly, while staying lean and not gaining fat, with no hindrance to performance….

    I’m actually surprised this is still being debated. It doesn’t change things that much though - if his loudest critics juiced up or admitted to it - let’s say Paulie Malinaggi…. He still wouldn’t be near the fighter Pacquiao was.
     
  13. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Does a bear sh1t in the woods?
    The majority use or have used

    Many have just been fortunate to have failed the same amount of tests as Lance Armstrong
     
  14. grantsorenson

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    Agree. The "scared of needles" BS was a terrible excuse. I wouldn't really hold PED usage against him since it's clear everyone else was on them too.
     
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  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    *second of a generation talent