70s Foreman was a bit overrated IMO

Norton was tailor made for George. It isn't that Norton was a gimmie or a cherry pick like people claim I saw it's just he happened to be a very easy fight and had no back foot he fragile and I wouldn't call him versatile.

 

You don’t think a slow,low fight IQ fighter with a poor chin, average defence and no back foot had a chance?

 

The stuff highlighted in red my response can be found in the OP. But I’ll try to answer the other stuff to the best of my ability.

About him being dehydrated it is what it is. If it effected him that’s something he dealt with his entire first career why is it important to bring up?

If George underestimated Ali that’s his problem but he looked the same as always in there. I don’t know why you’re bringing that up either are you trying to say he partially lost because he underestimated Muhammad?

What I’m trying to say when I said “quite a few” is that if Frazier got up for a fight like he did for Foreman, worn out with all the same respect as he did for Daniels and Sanders that a few guys could’ve looked as impressive as George did that night, not any ok fighter of course but guys cut from a similar cloth as George a Shavers, Lyle, Baer type etc. it was great timing for theatrics.

Okay, Norton may have done well against Holmes and Ali that has nothing to do with Foreman they fought nothing alike. Norton was suspect to someone who’d come out to fight, he couldn’t run or move at all and was not durable they never tested him against anyone like Foreman after the fight for a reason, not until Cooney and Shavers of course. His chin issues where well known in the gym life…

I didn’t discredit Ali’s game plan did I? If I did I want to make it clear I think he utterly dominated Foreman at an older age with very little apparent effort. He got hit with a few shots, fair it happens it’s boxing but for 90% of that fight he was in control of the “stronger” guy landing whenever he wanted, man handling Foreman and making his wide shots look comical. This was meant to be Foreman’s perfect fight, he had Muhammad where he apparently wanted him. Any other version of the fight where Ali had legs and it’d look worse for George.

It’s known Lyle was meant to be a pick for Foreman. He was seen as a very basic come forwards guy he needed to get back on the radar so they wanted someone for Foreman to destroy who was ranked and available that was Lyle but they where closer in terms of ability then they thought it’s not a discredit to Lyle or Foreman it’s that George and him where on a similar level.

Lots pull out excuses for the Young fight.

I’m not getting into talking about the Young fight, I made my points above read them. He lost just about every round in a familiar climate he was from Texas… he was dominated 118-111… not quite the destroyer people pretend is why I say “overrated” he was and Young really isn’t the unheralded great folks try to make him for the George fight.

I see it everywhere that 70s Foreman’s this H2H unstoppable monster when the reality is he’s about on the level with a guy like Lyle and his resume is a little less impressive then it’s made out to be in his first career that’s all. respect George a hell of a lot, his second career in particular.

 

Tie the noose then you coward!

 

Please don't agree with me.

 

Just found a horse head in my bed.