Warren goes off on Whyte's lawyer

Whytes team themselves have acknowledged that a private jet was offered, they just thought it was "too late".

And yes they offered to put the money in escrow if Whyte attended the press conference - which he didn't do. So why would they deposit the money in escrow? Whyte didn't fulfil his duty, ok no money then.

 

Ultimately Whyte acting like a ***** has dug his own grave. Not showing up to the press conference or doing any media means yes they probably will stick him in a Travelodge and so would I.

 

You have things back to front. Him not doing promotion (and potentially trying to leverage that) is a result of being screwed over, not the other way round.

However, 80-20 has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not he does promotion. And all to do with the WBC and the request made by Fury's team. This promotion issue only became apparent after the fact.

Now, you are welcome to argue that is why you personally believe 80-20 is fair, but that has no bearing on the WBC acting against Whyte repeatedly since he first fought an eliminator in 2016 and Fury's team knowingly leveraging that.

 

Lol you can't be serious

 

Why not just offer the jet straight away?

Offering it last minute because you are worried Whyte won't attend is pathetic.

It shouldn't have come down to last minute as Whyte should never have been provided with Ryanair tickets in the first place.

 

That's not how it works.

Flights and hotel costs will be expenses for the promoter staging the fight and they would cover the costs.

The promoter is in charge of setting up and paying for everything involved in a boxing match taking on the financial risk that comes with it.

If you want you stage a fight with a purse bid of $41 mil then you better make sure you can at least cover the costs of flights and hotels.

The fighter doesn't pick up the tab and nor should they.

 

No, you're wrong. The strategy was to withhold promotion and when ticket sales struggled, leverage some upside from the PPV etc. TBH I thought 20% was low but the failure of his strategy has put Warren in entirely in the driving seat which is why that lawyer was bringing up extra-legal issues and sounding desperate.

 

I'm wrong? You are basically just repeating back to me a summary of my own original post...

Okay, so when do you think they started using "The strategy was to withhold promotion and when ticket sales struggled, leverage some upside from the PPV etc."
Do you think it was before the Arum lobbied the WBC for the 80-20 split, or after?

edit: Just to be fair to your last point, I'm not sure if the lawyer is being desperate, as from what I read in the papers about the two radio segments that proceeded the above youtube video, it sounds like serious concerns regarding Warren's side's ability/wiliness to pay. Heck, Warren (a guy who has shuttered companies before and has instances of not paying) even said something to the effect of, if I screw you over and you don't get paid, you should sue your lawyer! But I admit I have a bias against Warren in this regard.

 

I mean Fury got the train down from Manchester for it.... He could have taken a "private jet" if needed, but chose not to.

Maybe they didn't anticipate Whyte was going to be such a tart over a 2 hour plane ride.

 

About what aspect?

Why would Warren pay Whyte the money into escrow before he attended the press conference, if the deal was "if you come we will get it sorted".

 

After. Arum offered him 35% and also went on record offering him PPV upside and Whyte wouldn't deal. He's been badly advised by that lawyer who is clearly out of his depth. You saw everyone on here saying that Fury doesn't sell- that's what they were banking on and they were wrong.

 

"If you fight, we will pay you" that kind of thing?

It's clear that Warren is withholding every possible courtesy from the other side and wants to play "if it isn't in formal writing I'm going to disregard it", and you expect them to take him at his word. If anything can be gleaned from this interview in regards to issues Whyte's lawyer has with how Warren's side is conducting negotiations, it's that Warren cannot be taken at his word, nor communications from his son apparently.

 

I have to ask, why would Arum offer 35% and PPV upside after the 80-20 ruling?
If you have something on that 35% and PPV upside I would be interested to read it, as I can't find anything online to support that. IF Whyte turned down 35% and a PPV upside then I would agree he was very badly advised, and I would have no sympathy for him, but I would need to see some evidence of that. To my recollection they never went north of 25% which was still 5% lower than the minimum expectation within the WBC guidelines.

This is a quote from Arum referring to Whyte after the 80-20 ruling on the purse bid.
"Now he's saying, 'I want extra money to promote, because you're stuck paying me what the purse bids said which is $7.3m and I want some more money from you to go out there and promote'."

My position has always been this was a massive fight, in fact I was the one on here arguing that point when many were saying Whyte didn't "deserve" a title shot. For me there are two men in the fight, and being advertised as being in the fight. Here's a question, let's say Wembley took longer than it did to sell out. How would that help Whyte? It's potential irritation for Warren, but it's the PPV that will be the main concern I would have thought. But I think this is getting away from the route cause of this tit-for-tat

edit:
This is what I think likely happens, IF the fight goes ahead, Whyte will be getting 20% flat fee, he won't do any promotion until fight week, then you will see him do the minimum "reasonable amount" to protect himself. OR Warren's side come to the table to negotiate (doesn't look likely at this point) OR Arbitration has some effect on things (that has gone quiet).

But, I don't see how Warren is so angry, his side have done their best to leverage their position as champion (And Whyte's known difficulties with the WBC) at the expense of Whyte at every step. Like how did he expect Whyte's side to respond to getting actively screwed over at every step of this?

 

**** Whyte. Even a hefty punk is still a punk.

 

I agree with Frank though, if they are not happy with the terms of the contract - why did they sign it?

Whyte forced it to purse bids and was banking on Hearn winning, which he didn't. And has basically been throwing his toys out the pram since then.

Yeah warrens being petty, but it sounds like Whyte has made a rod for his own back - i.e. signing the contract an hour before the deadline. Then just making it worse by not turning up to the press conference and making other weird demands, like 'take my image down from the posters'...

If Whyte keeps the silent treatment up as well, he will likely find himself in hot water considering the contract states "both fighters will reasonably promote the fight". Considering Whyte has not once acknowledged the fight is even on at this point, he risks losing his fight payment if he doesn't get off his ass and his lawyer would be wise to let him know that.