He is trouble vs. a good fighter in his prime. Check that a jouryneyman can do it. Vs s great fighter in his prime I think we know the outcome.
Who's in trouble ? Fury? Based on Cunningham? Doesn't necessarily work like that, see Ali v Cooper.. yet Ali beat much bigger punchers & was never really in the trouble Cooper had him in .. Frazier, Liston & Foreman.. fury has more than demonstrated he has a great chin as well… So the idea that we put him in with some 'prime' fighter and he gets blitzed isn't necessarily so.. there are a host of heavyweights right now who are in their prime and who punch as hard and harder than Cunningham who fury would be a clear favourite over.. so we don't know the outcome, Wilder for the first two fights at least WAS pretty much prime anyway .. he started boxing late, Chisora was prime in both fights.. both can bang , I suspect harder than Cunningham too.. it was more to do with Cunninghams style anyway , being a quicker more athletic cruiserweight with a freakish reach.. not fury having a shaky chin… that punch he threw would have floored most heavyweights.. fury is far from perfect but I think his chin has more than held up throughout his career
Is the IBHOF Furyworthy? @red corner knows no reason when it comes to the world's heavyweight champeen.
If Fury beats Whyte then retires he will be HOF worthy partly for the reasons already mentioned combined with being the second heavyweight champion ever to retire undefeated.
he’s a million miles off being a HoF or an ATG! When you’ve got to reach so far as to name Cunningham & Wallin to add names to his resume then your argument is lost already Wlad Klitschko will always stand out as a big name win on his record but those who know boxing can put that win into some genuine perspective. WK was near the end of his career, bored & unmotivated it was the worst version of Wlad we’d seen in 10 years. It was also a terrible performance from Fury but he was marginally better than Wlad so he won in what is almost universally agreed to be the worst world title fight ever seen. Then we come to Wilder, the most over protected, over hyped con job in Heavyweight history. A tertiary glance at his resume reveals the lengths and depths to which his handlers went to ensure he stayed unbeaten for so long, a criminal attempt to rob the boxing world of Marciano’s 49-0 record. Wins over the glass canon which now seems more like a glass catapult is no measure of All Time Greatness. Fury has been his own worst enemy, mental issues aside, he hasn’t been active enough amongst the top level fighters of his generation, the above mentioned 2 fighters are his only forays into the world of real challenges and matches. Fighting Whyte will help his record a bit, if he wins. IMO he needs to beat Whyte, Joshua, Usyk, Parker, Joyce and probably a couple of others before the question of ATG & HoF become valid.
Based on purely resume? No. Based on a mixture of resume, great trilogy and personality yes. Similar to Gatti, who got in mainly because of his exciting fights.
he’s in trouble vs a great fighter in his prime and I didn’t bring up the knockdown vs some euro bum or his gifted decision over John McCdermott. Still he has done just enough to make the hall of fame because he is a heavyweight. Who has he beaten in their prime. It’s a thin list, isn’t it? Yes it is.
I say he eventually gets in. What worong with that? My resason is fine, thank you. You just don't care for the education.
Nothing. Of all your proclamations re. Fury, that's one I wouldn't dispute. Sure. See you back here after Fury whoops Dillian Whyte's ass.
We'll see. He's the first live body he's foght that can punch not named Wilder. When he gets Ko'd as Whyte has done in sparring don't come crying to me. Sprarring means something unless you think Fury wanted to get Ko'd unpurpose.
Cool, so how many days did you spar this week to be so knowledgeable about it? When you spar a guy you sparred before, does it always go the exact same way it went last time, or are you both developing and trying out different things? Dillian's sparring tales come out of his ass. Nobody is corroborating his version of how his sessions with Fury went down. (Nobody who actually matters, anyway.) Whyte sparking Fury is not going to happen, man. If it's something you desire, by all means, hope and pray for it, cling to Dill's old gym myths and those Pajkić and Cunningham knockdowns, but take my advice and don't put any significant sums on it unless you like throwing your dough away. And do be sure and return to this thread four weeks today.
Lets go on what we know. Fury can't deal with pucnchers of some skill or pressure in general. Fat John McCdermott beat him and he ws robbed! Do you deny that? As for talking of his ass Fury is the best at it. And he is a PED cheat. Let me know it you deny anything in what I said. His chin is suspect to punchers and Whyte is a semi-skillled puncher. Better than Cunningham and Pajkic. Again tell me what I siad was wrong with specific details fan boy.