Gennady Golovkin: Tell me about him

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  1. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The funny thing is, you are part of a small percentage that think Canelo won. So in your mind you will remember it like that, but to the rest of the world it will be remembered the way it really happened, GGG got screwed over.
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have postulated that it's a small percentage. It might seem a small percentage on this forum, or amongst boxing fans, but that's based on small sample sizes that does not represent the whole of the world. What the whole of the world believes is unknown. For example, take the population of Mexico. The overwhelming majority of Mexico don't speak english, wouldn't participate on these forums or in english speaking boxing circles, and would naturally "believe" that Canelo won, because that's what they know happened and would have no reason to disbelieve that. A good chunk of those may not have studied the match like you did to arrive at your conclusion, but regardless they would know and believe Canelo won only based on the result.

    If 90% of 200 people on a boxing forum think GGG won, and 131 million+ know and believe Canelo won, then that 90% of 200 boxing fans is a mere speck of sand compared to the vast desert of people who know Canelo won. So your small sample sized 90% only matter within your bubble. Outside of that bubble, in the real world, it is meaningless because it is not based on a study of what happened but rather an appeal to popular opinion which is not an accurate representation of the whole world or what happened. What happens in a boxing ring can be observed, referenced and judged and is far more important than small sample sized bubbled majorities. Presenting yourself as the majority within a bubble is merely a tactic to suppress opposition, which is irrelevant when put against with the cold hard factual reality of what happened.
     
  3. m.s.

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    Obviously I'm talking about boxing fans, and you ask Mexican fans and I would say about 8 to 9 out of 10 would say GGG won the first fight. Alot would say the 2nd fight was different, closer to a draw.
     
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  4. shadow111

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    You have no data to conclude that "8 to 9 out of 10 Mexicans would say GGG won the first fight". It's utterly absurd to believe that in Mexico, that boxing fans there wouldn't overwhelmingly say Canelo won the first fight. It's all part of a myth that GGG fans started a while back claiming that Mexican fans like GGG more than Canelo. GGG does have a fanbase in SoCal where there's a lot of Mexican Americans, but to assume that most of those fans would say GGG won is just guesswork. There's no hard evidence to support such a claim.
     
  5. rodxd

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    Should of unified in 2020 or 2021 against Andrade, both with DAZN and Andrade wanted it. Then this Murata fight could be for 3 belts:ciao:i didnt forget about triple g talking about "all the belts"
     
  6. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Interesting aside, I noted that the Japanese promotion of Murata v GGG (on Amazon Prime???!!!) refer to GGG as a middleweight legend. Of course this is just promotion, but it sounds like he is highly respected internationally.
     
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  7. m.s.

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    And got busted trying to pull it off, then has the audacity to act affended when GGG called it on him. Even now he talks like its personal with GGG so personal that he had to wait four years for GGG to age. Winning by corruption has its benefits it seems.
     
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  8. m.s.

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    Other than I worked in construction with alot of Hispanics from multiple trades and almost nobody thought Canelo won the first fight.
     
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  9. m.s.

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    He has 20 middleweight title defenses 18 by KO, highlight reel KO'S Over 9 Ring mag ranked contenders, KO'S of 18 if counting Alphabet contenders. Many believe he has wins over today's premier boxer, so yeah I'd say he's respected unless your a jealous, threatened Canelo fan.
     
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  10. shadow111

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    What was your sample size? How many Hispanics did you ask? How many of them were Mexican?

    Where was this? SoCal? In America? To the best of your recollection, how many said they thought GGG won, how many said they thought Canelo won, how many weren't sure who won, didn't have an opinion on it or saw it as a draw?
     
  11. Serge

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    Clenelo aka ''the greatest fighter of our generation'' shamelessly and in complete violation of the Warrior Code and the rich tradition of Mexican warriors ducked a closer to prime version of this supposed ''bum'' GGG albeit to be fair so did many many others.

    In addition to having a state-of-the-art Kazakhstani-proof electrified chicken coop built to cower in fear in a puddle of his ginger urine in from GGG he also bizarrely created his own weight division to hide out in from him too. And this is despite him weighing more than GGG on fight night not only at the time but when he was down at 154 as well.

    And everytime this pyjama wearing ducking metrosexual freak's nostrils caught whiff of the scent of GGG on the prowl he immediately ducked back into said coop like a petrified little hen and he wouldn't dare step out of it and step up to the plate to face GGG until he saw the signs of aging and decline in him he'd been biding his time waiting for.

    When he finally managed to locate his plums, and let us not conveniently forget many of his own countrymen openly despise him and mocked him for bringing shame upon the name of the good people of Mexico with his brazen cowardice and the corruption which is as synonymous with his name as ginger hair, and somehow managed to summon the courage to face GGG he got his ass paddled royally and his judges had to rob the well past prime senior citizen blind in what still to this day across the entire globe is widely considered a scandalous robbery.

    And then after his judges robbed the well past prime senior who he shamelessly ducked a closer to prime version of blind, despite his obligatory stacked deck, his judges in his pocket to bail him out and magically transform his losses into wins, and his huge advantages in youth and significant weight advantage, he had to go and jack himself silly with PEDs for the rematch because he knew he couldn't never beat even that old well past it version of GGG fair and square and deep down even his most loyal zero integrity ass kissers and apologists know that too.


    And even worse, after his judges were predictably on hand to bail him out in the rematch and rob an absolute shell of GGG, despite the biblical levels of controversy surrounding both fights, the huge public interest in seeing the third instalment of the trilogy ASAP, and it being by far the most prestigious and lucrative option out there for him, he slipped right back into duck mode and his state-of-the-art electrified chicken coop and has been shamelessly ducking him ever since and he wanted no part of GGG again until he was well over 40 years old.

    The ''greatest fighter of our generation'' could only 'beat' that old way past prime GGG by a single point despite the fact he was much younger, bigger, had jacked himself silly with PEDs, and he has the most stacked deck in the game. Let that sink in.

    114-114, 115-113 115-113

    What a ****house!
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah, like GGG isn't 100% justified in feeling super aggrieved for being ducked by him, robbed blind twice by his judges, the way he has been treated and screwed by system, and him jacking himself full of PEDs before the rematch :facepalm::facepalm:
     
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  13. shadow111

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    Canelo steps up, fights GGG twice, beats him, in the exact way that GGG asked for it (Mexican Style). After doing all that, somehow he's still accused of ducking him. I can't think of any fighter in history who fights the boogeyman TWICE then still gets accused of ducking him. What a riot! But I love it, keep it coming. I can taste the tears of GGG fans. They are truly scarred for life over what Canelo did to him.
     
  14. m.s.

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    They were Mexican American in USA, I remember everybody thought GGG won the first fight, then maybe one said something different, then the others would say b.s. Canelo got his a#$ kicked. This was a conversation at break time before the 2nd fight l believe. Only the most obsessed odd Canelo fan would even argue against GGG winning the first fight. As for the 2nd fight, from what I remember some thought GGG won, some thought draw would have been fair, and some were ok with the decision.
     
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  15. rodxd

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    wba regular defenses are not real. he has 11 defenses