Is Fury HOF worthy?

@red corner, I trust you'll excuse me, but this reply will be broken across two posts, due to the volume of content quoted at your urgent request for answers.

Let's just take that for granted, for the sake of argument. Whyte is a particularly skilled pressure guy in your eyes? He isn't either. He's a mid-range plodder with some decent punches.

I guess it's lost on you just how much you hurt your case by reaching back to the McDermott to try to support it.

Fury-McDermott I was a domestic trade fight for an English title. It involved a green, barely twenty-one-year-old kid who'd been a professional for significantly less than a year and who was taking on an experienced and respected campaigner in only his eighth pro bout. It was a learning fight on the way up to vastly bigger moves (though it was among the more significant bouts in McDermott's career).

But, yes, I deny it. My comprehensive thoughts on how that bout went have been posted multiple times already and can be read here, by the way;

 

Who cares? We're talking about Whyte's statements re. sparring sessions here, not Fury's. Your vitriol for the world's heavyweight champeen is getting you in a muddle.

You realize you're making this comment in the midst of a concerted attempt to boost Dillian Whyte, right? That guy has his own history with supplements (not to mention some eye-catching gynecomastia), perhaps you could look it up.

But if you want my thoughts on Fury vs. UKAD and PEDs in boxing in general, they've already been posted;

Just did.

And yet he beats them. Go figure.

You realize that the whole 'Pajkic/Cunningham knocked Fury down so _____ (insert bigger hitter) will KO him' screed has been done already? That bad math was supposed to mean Fury categorically couldn't beat Wlad, absolutely would be brutally knocked out by Wilder...

Oh, so now he's just semi-skilled. I guess that's enough, huh?

Whyte is not more skilled than Cunningham. That's a patently misleading argument. He hits harder and is a natural heavyweight, I'll give you that.

No kidding. Guess what, Fury's much, much, much better than the baby version of himself who fought Pajkic. Too bad Dillian isn't meeting that version next month (heck, there's still no guarantee he'd win, hahaha).

I just did, bright boy. Comprehensively.


Do return to this thread four weeks today. I shall be waiting.

 

>> My replies are above.

 

@red corner, those replies are all cheap, cheap shots (the ones that aren't just garbled and incomprehensible, that is).

You know the one about horses and water, right? It applies here. I can take the errant youth to school, but I can't make him learn. (Seeing as you mentioned educations and all.)


I'll see you here four weeks today, buddy o' mine. Don't miss it now.

 

If Fury wins its probably his 3rd best win in a wak resume. But if he losses you'd be better off disappearing. I like Whyte and the odds. Don't be shocked if its an upset.

 

Eh, you're entitled to an opinion about Fury's unfinished body of work, I don't care.

He isn't losing, but I wouldn't be going anywhere on account of a fight outcome.

Don't forget to be here in four weeks. Just twenty-eight days. Not long now.

 

Big odds often seduce the punters but Whyte is 5/1 for good reason: he's expected to lose 85% of the time. Even that takes into account how erratic Fury is, that two of his last three performances have been significantly below his best form. I'm expecting Fury to perform very well in his UK homecoming against a "domestic rival" with a good camp and an activity fight under his belt. Personally I find it bizarre that I managed to get better than even odds on a Fury KO/TKO/DQ win, considering what he did in back to back fights to the far more formidable Wilder.

 

I'm seeing no reason to believe he won't be fully prepared for the occasion. It's a packed Wembley and there'll be a 'domestic rival' with a big (albeit curiously quiet of late) mouth that needs closing across the other side of the ring from him.

For Whyte's part, there isn't much that can get him ready for what's coming his way.

 

I would tend to say yes,altough his resume is kind aweak his level of FAME is high.

 

No. He has a terrible resume and he is a PEDs cheat.

 

He's already beaten:

The undisputed HW champion and took every belt from him,
The longest reigning titlist (3X)

So if he beats:

Usyk (the current unified champion),
Joshua (the former 2x unified champion),
and Ruiz (former unified champion) honestly that's all he would need. If he beats them, that would mean that he has bested every other contemporary champion that at one point was ranked at least number 1 or 2 during his career

That is a HOF ticket.

I can also see Fury retiring without any of them though.

 

Fury doesn't batter Whyte into oblivion and is clearly nursing issues - retirement

Fury batters Whyte & Usyk goes the distance against AJ again - Fury Vs Usyk happens regardless of everything

Fury batters Whyte & Usyk KO's AJ - Fury Usyk Happens IF the money is right (Saudi's money)

Fur batters Whyte & AJ somehow beats Usyk - Fury gets easiest dream path for undisputed and retirement

 

He never beat an undisputed champ. Wlad was unified not undisputed.

 

I'm not sure beating Whyte should be seen as some deciding factor. For the reason being, he's just been a good top contender. He's beaten some of the lower level contenders, and that is good. But he's generally seen as a second tier HW so far.

Retiring undefeated doesn't mean much when you have a very thin resume IMO. If he beats Whyte, Usyk, and AJ...he'd have a much stronger case IMO.

 

ONE title defense out of two reigns as heavyweight champion? at this time, not in my opinion.