Bonavena vs Ali who was winning going into the 15th?

God, I love how you try to make every thread cringey with your petty 5th grader insults. Man up and talk like someone with an IQ.

I am showing you it isn't outrageous by bringing Yank into it, it's a valid point.

Bonavena probably knew he'd get mugged if he didn't KO Ali. Check the judges 10-2 cards FFS.

Why do you think Ali disregarded the ref and wouldn't return to his corner like it's the 1910s if he wasn't worried?

Now, if you give Ali every round I called a draw (Which honestly is plausible) it's a 7-8 fight.

From there depending on how you judge, you could flip a few rounds to either Muhamad or Bonavena, most like what Ali does a little too much IMO so you get a similar result to the judge who had it 5-8 which seems fair to me as well.

Stop being a little pus over boxing opinions you neurotic turd.

 

This just in Larry Holmes is being toasted and has been forced to serve 2 weeks community service for murdering Will Smith.

 

Your blessing are appreciated. It took a lot of attrition I flushed my system with Armstrong vs Ross shortly after.

 

Nah, I should save some for 70s HW groupies.

 

You got me I can be sarcastic.

It wasn’t close to me, I thought Bonavena clearly won the rounds I said he did. And the draws were what they were.

OR maybe Yank actually watched a similar fight to me? Who cares, Boxing is such an opinionated matter of scoring, watch it again with an opener mind try and see what I do and If you don’t, move on you seem tied up in what I have to say- like a deeply seeded desire to get me to say damn Swag you got me lol. There are no winners in an argument with a close minded person like you, open up your head and stop being so toxic.

I saw what I saw. Scored it based on effective aggression and effective punching. I leaned into Oscar winning because I saw more of what I like in a fighter for scoring. I’m not saying Ali winning is the wrong result note I’m saying “my opinion” you need to slow down and clean the sweat from your hairy palms.

I can’t tell you why Ali did what he did. Especially in the 4th round where he got taken to the chop shop and he just sat there flat footed hands up. Maybe he didn’t counter because he was trying to warm up, use the round to feel Oscar out? Maybe a champion boxer saw something we didn’t? He did definitely underestimate Bonavena. Fighters have lost because they weren’t in it before it happens.

About why Bonavena felt like he’d get mugged. He felt like he won every fight he lost which isn’t unusual it’s just how he was and most fighters are. he was sincerely sour about Frazier beating him even though he knocked him down twice and felt as if he was mugged.But it doesn’t mean anything because he fought like normal.

I’d also like to say, I don’t think Oscar went for the KO in just the 15th like he was in a panic, Oscar fought exactly the same as always in the same predictable ugly, aggressive, bullish style. Ali timed him and put him into tomorrow land.

He didn’t know if he had it in his hands from the Knock down A famed boxing coach didn’t either going into the 15th. He’d been in a tough fight and as you say he was very disliked maybe he feared being robbed? What he did do was DQ worthy UNDENIABLY I’m giving one possible answer. In reality it’s in Ali’s head why he chose to sucker Oscar like that.

Now Swag before you get all puffy chested over an Internet debate. Keep it articulate or you’re not gonna get a reply you’re not funny enough to deal with.