Bonavena vs Ali who was winning going into the 15th?

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Going into the 15th who was winning?

  1. Ali

    87.8%
  2. Bonavena

    9.8%
  3. Draw

    2.4%
  1. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed, this is the first I've ever heard in the 50 years since ,that Bonavena was winning the fight.
     
  2. ThatOne

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    I have to watch it again. The OP needs to rescore Ali-Evangelista.
     
  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Again, you're the only person I've seen in the 50 years not only suggesting Bonavena was on his way to victory... but dominating Ali as well.

    How many times do we have to go through this? YOU AND DURHAM DID NOT WATCH A SIMILAR FIGHT. YANCEY SAID A VERY CLOSE FIGHT, YOU SAW A 9-3 DOMINATION.
    I honestly don't give a rat's ass, toconvince you anything. You're an insignificant ****wit. Only words I'm interested in hearing you saying is "goodbye" but we all know how that went last time you said that
    Again you are the ONLY person in the 50 years since the bout, who had Oscar winning, let alone by that margin.

    That's exactly what you tried to do :lol: You implied Ali refused to go to a neutral corner because he was afraid of losing which makes absolutely no sense. If he was so afraid of losing, why would he risk a DQ?

    Do you have a source for this? Bonavena made no complains, nor indications he was ahead. As a matter of fact, in the post fight interview he conceeded Ali was better than him, which he certainly wouldn't have done if he actually believed he was dominating 9-3 and that the KO was basically a lucky punch.

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    You need to stop acting like this was some incredibly tough to score bout.
    1. Yancey was not even at ringside to my knowledge,
    2. Durham's fighter was embroiled in a very personal feud with Ali and they had a huge bout coming up in less than 3 months, and Yancey held some resentment himself toward Ali himself so he's not an unbiased source.
    I've already answered this above, if Ali was so worried about losing he wouldn't risk a DQ. I don't know why he didn't go to a neutral corner either. Perhaps it was because of his rust, he'd genuinely forgotten? It his first knockdown of nearly three years. But it certainly was NOT fear of losing.
     
  4. ThatOne

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    Ali wrecked him. Ali also lulled him into the attack that wrecked him.
     
  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Poll is so close, could go either way :lol:
     
  6. red corner

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    Going into the 15th round I had Ali ahead by an 8-6 margin. Could have been close than that the AP had it 7-6-1. Of course Ali jhad two judges in his pocket with ridiculous scores.

    Oscar who round four and rounds 8-14 maybe giving up 1 -2 of these rounds.

    Sill the outcome fot this fight is right. Ali via KO, and he ko'd Bonevena who was only KO'd in this fight and did with the left hook, a seldom throw and sloppy punch for him. Ali was rusty can called this his toughest fight to date. Lison, Foerman, Quarry, and Lyle did worse vs Ail. Go figure!
     
  7. Journeyman92

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    Recycled garbage learn to read my posts before you reply. I answered all of this.
     
  8. Journeyman92

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    Not comparable at all don't be an a$$. Bonavena actually did do really well here. multiple people had it very close but Ali always a margin ahead. I just earned my sig is all.
     
  9. Pat M

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    I just watched the 15th round in the post above. The referee allowed Ali to stand near Bonavena and attack him as soon as he got up. It wasn't Ali's fault, usually the referee makes sure the person who scored the knockdown is in a neutral corner. Ali was just taking advantage of what was there. Ali did land a good left hook that started the knockdowns, but if that fight happened today, it probably goes to a decision. Bonavena would have gotten the full 8 count, then the ref would have talked to him and if Ali was not in the neutral corner, the ref would make him go to the neutral corner before allowing the fight to begin again. Bonavena would have had much more time to recover.

    Another thing that is obvious is that Ali is much taller than Bonavena. The bigger fighters dominating boxing is nothing new. Ali probably had as much height advantage over Bonavena as the Klitsckos, Lewis, etc. had over their opponents.
     
  10. ThatOne

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    No need to become apoplectic. Ali lulled him into an attack and wrecked him. Reminds me of the trap Michael Corleone lulled Solozzo and McCluskey into. Ringo is lucky. He lived to do battle again.
     
  11. Vince Voltage

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    Ali once again the beneficiary of favoritism, twice allowed to stand over Bonavena after dropping him.
     
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  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Which has absolutely nothing to do with the thread. Please answer the question OP asked instead of derailing it with your endless, anti-Ali tirade.
     
  13. Journeyman92

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    Onto the groupie list you go.
     
  14. Journeyman92

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    To be fair, it is relevant enough to mention with a bit more behind it.
     
  15. ThatOne

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    It was masterful how Ali lulled him into that left hook, a punch he rarely threw . It was if he was setting him up for it all night.