Explain Fitzsimmons vs Jeffries 2 to me

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  1. 70sFan865

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    I think so.
     
  2. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Did he sustain a broken nose ?Deep gashes above and below both eyes?
    Was his face at anytime during the fight," a mask of blood?"
    I don't know why you are resisting this so doggedly , from where I am sitting this reflects creditably on Jeffries courage,determination, and durability.
     
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    Wait. He has returned? As who?
     
  4. 70sFan865

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    How many times did Fitz knock Jeffries down?
     
  5. Tonto62

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    Exactly what that has to do with how much punishment respective fighters shipped is beyond me?
    As far as I know Jeffries was only floored in a sparring session with Corbett and half pushed /off balance against Munroe in an exhibition.
    Can we put this into perspective?
    Chuvalo was not floored against Ali.
    Cobb was not floored against Holmes.
    Briggs was not floored against Vitali.
    Did those three men take the Father and Mother of a hiding in those fights?
    A simple yes or no will suffice as an answer.
     
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  6. 70sFan865

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    None of them took similar beating to Willard, that's my point.
     
  7. Cecil

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    Kosst Amogan.
     
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    Kosst Amojan actually means “porn collection” no kidding.
     
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  9. Tonto62

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    Since neither of us have seen the 2nd Jeffries v Fitz fight,we are not in a position to make comparisons and can only rely on first hand eye witness accounts,which one of us, myself, is willing to do.Briggs had a fractured eye socket and went straight into an intensive care unit after the Vitali fight.He took a very bad, sustained beating over 12 rds from a giant, the referee was criminally incompetent in not rescuing him during that fight,[that same referee has just been downgraded for his scoring of the Josh Taylor fight,] Willard's brave effort lasted 9 minutes,and after the intensity of the initial round Dempsey was arm weary and Willard began to land shots of his own.
     
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  10. Tonto62

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    Not ,"poor recollection?"
     
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  11. Cecil

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    We’ll really know it’s him if we say Laszlo Papp isn’t the greatest middleweight of all time!
     
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  12. Kosst Amojan

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    There was a difference against the bouts against Fitzsimmons and Johnson; he didn't win against the last (so had more personal reasons for that claim when).
    I have never heard or read that Jeffries ever accused this to Johnson, before you did this... Can you prove where this information is supposed to come from (or is it just slender to enlighten the cheating of Plaster-Fitz)?
    I don't believe anyone knew doping in 1908...:dunno:thinking:

    Do you have any verified source that he was supposed to retire after that fight, or rather that this was announced previous to it?

    I don't do the search work for you. Do you know Google? If so, then use it!

    One simple question to you: Are you a subaccount of Mackie (Tono62-99)?:dunno:watchout:
     
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  13. Kosst Amojan

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    I have a video of Langford (in a sparing session) and also of Fitzsimmons (vs. Corbett)... I doubt you ever watched them, is then wouldn't you make such a dumb statement.

    Are you actually able to read? I have here several times mentioned it is described in the biopic of Jeffries, where who was co-writer. Also in the report of the fight, as I maintained.
     
  14. Kosst Amojan

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    Where is that report? On the Boxrec Wiki was actual one...

    I think the investigation happened since about mid of the 20. century or maybe around 1930.
     
  15. Tonto62

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    Of all the posters here, excellent, good ,bad , indifferent,you are the very last that should be asking for verified quotes!
     
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